Oliver 1650 high speed serial/model numbers

[EX Deere Farmer]

I know that some of the Oliver 1650s had a faster or lower rear end ratio. I used to have the information that listed the numbers to look for. I can not find that information now. I have found an Oliver 1650 with a blown motor. The owner said he though it had the faster drive line in it. I have a good 1655 engine. I had been looking for a 1655 gas to switch but all of the 1655s seem to be selling for high money right now. This 1650 is a real late one as it has the three speed hydraul. I do not need it but It would be neat for tractor rides. I used to have an Oliver 1655 but traded it off in the 1980s for a JD 4440.

 

[super99]

If you can get the serial number, the last 3 digits are the transmission code. Post here and someone will know which one it is. I have 2 1550's, one has a high speed transmission, I'll look and see what they both are and post back, Not sure if they would be the same as a 1650 tho. Chris

 

[scootergmc]

452= standard speed 2 wheel drive Row Crop
456=High speed 2 wheel drive Row Crop & High speed Wheatland/Ricefield
468=Standard speed Wheatland/Ricefield
461=Standard speed Mechanical Front Drive
465=High speed Mechanical Front Drive
480=Hydraulic front drive.

 

[super99]

Thanks Scooter, right on time!! Isn't there also a slow speed transmission code? At what models did the transmission code start?? Did 77,88's have high speed transmissions available?

 

[EX Deere Farmer]

452= standard speed 2 wheel drive Row Crop
456=High speed 2 wheel drive Row Crop & High speed Wheatland/Ricefield
468=Standard speed Wheatland/Ricefield
461=Standard speed Mechanical Front Drive
465=High speed Mechanical Front Drive
480=Hydraulic front drive.

Thank you that was the information I was needing. I will let you guys know if I have any luck.

 

[John Schoenauer]

super99 the 1650 low speed code is 470

 

[super99]

Thanks, I know a guy with a 1550 special with a slow transmission, he said it barely goes 12 mph.

 

[scootergmc]

Thanks Scooter, right on time!! Isn't there also a slow speed transmission code? At what models did the transmission code start?? Did 77,88's have high speed transmissions available?

Looks like John got you your answer. Yes, there were codes for the 77/88 etc. but I don't think there was a "high speed" rear end per se, but I could be wrong. I think there were differences in transmission gearing itself but as to what when and how, I'm not too sure.

 

[used2bmike]

I believe my 1650 has the high speed rear. The tachometer mph goes to about 25 mph. And the shift pattern appears reversed to most I've seen on websites. R1 is in the upper quadrant and R2 in the lower.

 

[LSaunders]

Thanks, I know a guy with a 1550 special with a slow transmission, he said it barely goes 12 mph.

Years ago I had an 880 with a slow transmission. "Barely 12 mph" would be about right. It was way slower than the Super 88 I had at the same time.

 

[super99]

I believe my 1650 has the high speed rear. The tachometer mph goes to about 25 mph. And the shift pattern appears reversed to most I've seen on websites. R1 is in the upper quadrant and R2 in the lower.

That is the way my 1550 is set up

 

[nefletcher]

I came across this thread while looking up how to adjust my pto clutch, my 1650 has a serial number of 195 536-454. It has the creeper setup, is the 454 the designation for creeper drive? It's got extremely long rear axles, I think it could probably be spread out to near 14 ft between the axle and wheel center combination. Just went down the rabbit hole and thought I'd see if I could find out more about my tractor. Thanks.

 

[John Schoenauer]

I came across this thread while looking up how to adjust my pto clutch, my 1650 has a serial number of 195 536-454. It has the creeper setup, is the 454 the designation for creeper drive? It's got extremely long rear axles, I think it could probably be spread out to near 14 ft between the axle and wheel center combination. Just went down the rabbit hole and thought I'd see if I could find out more about my tractor. Thanks.

nefletcher you should contact the Floyd County Museum in Charles City, Iowa 641-228-1099. Give them your serial number and they will send you a build card showing how your tractor was built, where it was shipped and other information. You can also order owner, shop and parts manuals.
The power train code 454 is not in my code listings.
The long axles and creeper drive would suggest it was built for vegetable growers.

 

[nefletcher]

Thanks, I'll definitely look into that. Here's the complete ID tag and axle. Needs tires and a clutch.

 

[Princeton Bill]

I believe my 1650 has the high speed rear. The tachometer mph goes to about 25 mph. And the shift pattern appears reversed to most I've seen on websites. R1 is in the upper quadrant and R2 in the lower.

Where' 5th and 6th?

 

[scootergmc]

Thanks, I'll definitely look into that. Here's the complete ID tag and axle. Needs tires and a clutch.

Nice photo. Whereabouts you located? It reminds me of the palouse.

 

[John Schoenauer]

Thanks, I'll definitely look into that. Here's the complete ID tag and axle. Needs tires and a clutch.

Looking at the serial number tag. The top line is the specification or model number. 365 = the third version of the 1650, after the dash the first 2 = adjustable or wide front, the second 2 = diesel. I do not have anything for the rest of that line. The bottom is the serial number and power train. The serial number shows it was made in late 1967 and my power train code list does not show the 454 number.

 

[nefletcher]

Nice photo. Whereabouts you located? It reminds me of the palouse.

You'd be correct, I'm in Dayton. The hills keep us awake in the tractors.

 

[nefletcher]

Looking at the serial number tag. The top line is the specification or model number. 365 = the third version of the 1650, after the dash the first 2 = adjustable or wide front, the second 2 = diesel. I do not have anything for the rest of that line. The bottom is the serial number and power train. The serial number shows it was made in late 1967 and my power train code list does not show the 454 number.

Thanks John, would the 3rd version diesel engine mate up to a first version machine? I'm looking at another 1650 that needs an engine, mine is strong but the rest of her of tired.

 

[John Schoenauer]

Yes, I think any engine from an 880 to a White 2-78 (I think that is the model) should fit with minor adjustments.
The different versions happened when updates were made. There were 3 or 4 updates to the Fifty series tractors.