Oliver paint

[Cody Meister 2]

I know this has been brought up hundreds of times. But I am just wondering if anyone has used AGCO or CarQuest Oliver/Meadow Green? What do you think of it? I'm painting my 66 on my own and am very new to this step of restoration.

 

[super 55]

Well, it certainly is a lot cheaper than automotive paint. But it depends on what you want out of a paint. The expensive paint like PPG is going to give an excellent finish, way better than the tractor ever had in it's life.
When I painted my tractor parts, I stripped them down, put on a coat of epoxy primer, then several coats of the Oliver paint. I am by no means an expert painter and I thought the results were very good. I just wanted my tractor to look stock, and not super shiny. A benefit is you can get the AGCO paint in spray bombs for touch up if you want. I remember seeing on another site that a guy painted his whole tractor with spray bombs, but that would be expensive in my opinion.
The thing to remember, no matter what kind of finish you want, the prep is really important.

 

[Stu]

I have used nothing but the Agco paint on the tractors I have painted. A base/clear will have more shine and show more imperfections in bodywork. If this will be a working tractor, another thing to keep in mind, the Agco paint will scratch and the automotive paint is more likely to chip. The Agco paint is easier to touch up. Good luck, Stu.

 

[sparky7]

Whenever i see old tractors it looks like all the bolts, nuts, screws, whatever are always painted, im wondering how the heck you prep this sort of stuff without dismantling the entire tractor and stripping every bolt. Is everything wire wheeled?

Im pretty farmiliar with automotive paint, but ive never owned a piece of industrial equipment before so im not sure what the normal prep for paint is like.

 

[super 55]

I have used wire wheels, sand blasting, sanding, and chemical paint removers. It all depends on the piece. I also have removed rust with molasses mixed with water (1 part molasses to 4 parts water) and electrolysis. The electrolysis uses borax mixed with water and a battery charger. I take everything down to bare metal then clean with a paint prep or dewax/degreaser. Then I prime with epoxy to get a good seal and a durable finish. I only paint in the warm weather outside and be sure to wear a good respirator.

 

[rrlund]

You do know that Meadow Green isn't the right color don't you? The old Oliver green has to be mixed from a paint number. To each his own though I guess.

 

[sparky7]

Whats the paint code?

i read that the later olivers had meadow green on them

 

[rrlund]

PPG paint codes found in Dec/Jan 2010 oliver magazine. Hart-Parr Green-925954 years 1930-37 Oliver Green-925956 years 1938-46 Oliver Fleetline Green-925955 years 1947-50 Newer Oliver Green-926052 years 1951-76 Red-70094 Yellow-82748 Clover White-DAR46536 Hart-Parr Orange DAR60080 This may help also a good paint shop should be able to cross these numbers or others.

This is what I copied and kept from somebody elses post. Lyle Dumont is the one who came up with these from the old Martin Seynor numbers,but I STRONGLY disagree with the numbers for 1951 up through the end of the Supers. There's a paint number missing in there,that later number listed IS Meadow Green. The color was changed very slightly in 51,but not to Meadow Green until the 3 digits. If it was me,I'd use the 1947-50 number,it's a WHOLE lot closer than what's listed.

 

[Gary Spitznogle]

Martin senour has always had a number 3824 which I believe is for the 51's through the supers. It's a green with kind of a yellow tint to it.Also sherwin williams has the color with 94957 which matches 3824, also they have 94956as meadow green and 94955 as dark green for the earlier ones. I've been using these numbers and they seem to match original colors about as close as you can get.

 

[rrlund]

Thanks. I saved that one to Microsoft Word too.

 

[Thompson Mike]

I would steer clear of that Martin senour paint now. I did a 550 high end restoration and used the numbers posted and it came out way to light. Of course right after we shot the paint I saw the notice from Lyle Dumont stating there was a problem with the tint. Well the tractor looks great but when parked next to a correct paint it stands out bad almost like a mist tractor. Big $$$ for a bad tint job.