oliver shifting question

[BeeBazaar]

My oliver 1650 diesel, I am having issues shifting If I go from reverse to forward or vice-versa relatively fast I have no issues. But if I wait a few seconds, or get off the tractor and back on the chain coupler is spinning and doesn't stop until its in gear, either grinding or having to turn the tractor off and then back on. How do i make it stop? also, I've noticed its kinda hard to get out of gear. Not sure if thats related...

 

[rrlund]

Do you have the hydra power two speed? If you do,it shifts from neutral best when it's in direct drive. Shifting out of gear is the opposite,best to have it in under drive.

All that said,I'm having the same issues with my 1600,grinds to beat the band when shifting from neutral even in direct,but I have a loader on it and I've has the clutch hot enough to stink several times and have adjusted the linkage up about as far as it'll go. I know I need to do a clutch job on that one before I start stacking bales with it this summer. Maybe that's the boat you're in,but if you have the two speed,try it in direct drive and see if it's any better.

 

[BeeBazaar]

Yes its the 2 speed. Its fine unless it has time to begin spinnging and then it wont stop unless i force it in gear or manure it off. Is this clutch related?

 

[ziffel]

We have one and it works fine. Could an overheated clutch have a heat warped disc?

 

[Olliejunkie]

Do you idle it down when shifting. Some of mine are that way. If I'm on a hill I try to get it rolling first. Maybe try going into a high gear to get it stopped then manure to the gear you want. Sounds like some clutch adjustment or work is in order.

 

[BeeBazaar]

(quoted from post at 11:57:10 05/05/20) Do you idle it down when shifting. Some of mine are that way. If I'm on a hill I try to get it rolling first. Maybe try going into a high gear to get it stopped then manure to the gear you want. Sounds like some clutch adjustment or work is in order.

Yes idled all the way down. It doesnt matter what gear i go for. If i dont do it immediately after coming out of a gear and the chain coupler has a few seconds to get going, its going until i cram it in gear or shut it down

 

[rustred]

don't want to be cramming it into gear. your grinding metal off the gears and may chip a tooth. I have a 2-85 and its not the easiest shifting thing. but yes direct drive is the best. kinda need to "snap" them in and out of gear. sounds like you have a dragging clutch if the coupler starts turning once out of gear. maybe oil on it?

 

[rrlund]

I think it's clutch related,yes. Somebody said try a high gear. This morning I found out the opposite. I hadn't used mine much lately because it was so had to shift, but I had to drop a bale in with it this morning instead of using the 1365. When I got off to shut a gate,I tried to get it in 5th and it was grinding to beat the band. I pulled it down in to 2nd,the grinding was way less and it popped in alright.

Don't think that it's an inheritant problem,mine didn't used to do it until I got the clutch smoking one day unloading bales, and my 1550,1850 and 2-105 shift fine.

 

[Olliejunkie]

You are probably right Randy. I couldn't remember which gear worked best.

 

[Mike(NEOhio)]

My 1550 works fine but grinding is from the gears coasting. I got in the habit of looking through the hole for the steering tilt pedal to watch for the chain coupling to stop. I'd agree you have a clutch problem if it does not stop.

 

[J. Schwiebert]

How bad is your pilot bearing? If the pilot bearing is going bad the shaft will not stop.

 

[Jim Pollock]

When you grind an oliver into gear its not the actual gear teeth that are grinding. Its the synchronizer teeth that are grinding against the shifting collar. Now on a farmall you are actually trying to slide the gear into place and actually grinding the gear teeth. Still not good to do but on olivers its not the actual gear teeth grinding.

 

[BeeBazaar]

Ill check the pilot. Thanks All