Pole Boom Question

[whrowley]

Located a 3 pt pole boom for my 8N tractor. Never used one before and never saw one used. What kind of weight can I expect the boom to hold and what is the lift capacity of the tractor at the end of the boom. I guess its the same number. Just looking some kind of idea what I can expect to lift. I don't want to bend the boom. Any boom lifting tips appreciated.

 

[Bruce (VA)]

See tip # 44.

Unless you have a really cheap boom pole,
the pump won't lift the weight or the front
wheels will come off the ground before you
bend the boom pole.
75 Tips

 

[gears]

The further out the pole the less an N will lift. I wouldn't worry about bending it, if something is that heavy your front end will come up.

I bent my support bars for my boom - they are heavy angle iron, 15' shop crane mast (6" tube, 3/8" wall) slipped and the base whacked into 'em, now they've got a slight tweak to em.

 

[Dean]

Most general duty, e.g., TSC, etc., boom poles are rated 500 lbs. on the long hook and 750 lbs. on the short hook.

That said, your 8N will likely not lift rated loads on either hook.

Dean

 

[Hobo,NC]

http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=378930&highlight=boom+pole

If your chit is rite....



http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=363452&highlight=relief

I have lifted loaders off/on the trailer and a N that was burnt with the engine removed :shock: I had to tip toe it around but got'er done with a elcheapo pole...

 

[Del Huebner]

Lots of different uses for a boompole.

 

[kev518n]

I bought mine at a auction for 5.00. Used it to lift deer in the air to cut them up this deer season. Pretty handy

 

[swpaguy]

 

[bob pelton]

in the pics on your thread I see the removed rv valve but i dont see it in the pics, can you see it in upper or lower right or left with a flashlight or do you have to go just by feel to find it to put the wrench on it?.

 

[hd6gtom]

250 to 300 lbs if you don't try lifting from the end of the pole. I
have scrapped lots of bent ones. Usually were on something besides a
N ford when they destroyed them.

 

[Mdparrott]

Weight x Arm = Moment. If your tractor can lift 1000 lbs at 2 ft, it'll lift 500 @ 4 ft, 250 @ 8 ft, etc.

Same principal as a torque wrench, only backwards.

 

[Ultradog MN]

They are handier than a shirt on a pocket.
I don't have a loader tractor so would be lost without one.
It will take you some fooling around to learn all it's secrets.
Your tractor will lift more if you have the top link at it's shortest length than the longest one.
And you can wrap a chain 2/3 of the way up the pole and lift more that way too.
It's always an equation of how much weight vs how high of lift vs steering with the brakes.
Some guys over on tractor talk love to bash the Ns. So I have posted this photo many times there. Just one I found on the net.
I tell them to see if they can find me another 1939 tractor that will do this.

I can also tell you you wont break a boom pole with an N. I have used and sometimes abused mine over the years.
This photo is one of my own. I was juuuust able to skid this mower along the ground with it.

 

[Ken N Tx]

(quoted from post at 06:10:11 03/05/16) So I have posted this photo many times there. Just one I found on the net.
I tell them to see if they can find me another 1939 tractor that will do this.

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I can also tell you you wont break a boom pole with an N. I have used and sometimes abused mine over the years.
This photo is one of my own. I was juuuust able to skid this mower along the ground with it.

Hey Ultradog MN [b:bdadb0f4b7]That is my '45 2N[/b:bdadb0f4b7].....2 more..

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[Ken N Tx]

And my barn is not pink anymore!!!!!!
.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

They are a nice inexpensive implement that can save your back. I use mine when the loader is tied up. The square
frame HD will lift more and some have holes for Cat2. Photo is of my 601 pulling loader frame off an NAA.

 

[maxwell99]

Boom pole is a very useful tool, it and the three point hitch platform lift are about the two most useful tools,

That is for us poor boys that do not have a front end loader, now that is one of the most useful tools, but pie in the sky for many of us,

 

[gears]

Mine replaces the top link, any idea on the brand?

It was $50 at auction.

 

[ScoutB]

(quoted from post at 20:28:32 03/05/16) Mine replaces the top link, any idea on the brand?

It was $50 at auction.

Mine too, but a different design.

 

[Trapper D]

I did not take pictures since I was driving but I picked a 4.6 Ford motor with tranny and transfer case attached. Just barely had enough lift to get it out of the bed of the truck though. When I move it out of the garage maybe I will take a few pics. Maybe the best attachment I got.

 

[kev518n]

Here is mine this past deer season.

 

[Trevans]

Sometimes I stick mine in the bucket of the skid steer. I chain it around the top brace and to hooks welded to rear of bucket. Havn't bent it yet.

 

[Tall T]

UD,

Your rotary cutter must be way heavier than my MF 59, because my crane was able to lift it from the flat deck that delivered it and set it on the ground.

I also used my boom to hang a roll of garden fence wire on a chain with a swivel -- table base at the bottom.
As I backed up it unrolled itself.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

Gears
It looks like a Dearborn model 19-52

Kirk

 

[gears]

That's it exactly Kirk, thanks.

 

[Dean]

Cute trike.

Dean

 

[PatrickB]

I've made some pretty heavy non-hydraulic lifts with this thing on the 8n when it's parked. By setting a chunk of oak cribbing under the lift arms, keeping the boom vertical and hanging a chainfall on the end, I've lifted equipment (in unison with a forklift) so a flatbed could be driven out from under it.

 

[reddogge]

I use mine mainly to lift the far end of my Woods 6' finish mower and then slide it into my 5x8 trailer for a trip to the mower doctor.

 

[DGinVT]

It is amazing what you can lift with a pole boom with careful thought. Mine is a home made post hole digger without the GM truck rear end on it. On the end of the boom I can hook a 1 ton chainfall which makes for handy lifting.

 

[Wayne Fleury]

In the process of connecting a small electric winch to my boom pool to make it a little more versitile.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Thanks Ken.
I knew that photo belonged to someone here but didn't remember who.
It looks like you repainted more than just the barn. Your N looks great too.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Terry,
That Ford rotary cutter was a dog. One of
the worst deals I've made. I bought it on an
online auction and was very disappointed. It
was a 7'. I basically gave it away when I
sold that tractor in the photo.
You win some and you lose some.
Too bad the mower was loathsome

 

[Tall T]

Patrick,

Thanks for the idea of using my chain hoist on the boom to pull a motor, rather than trying to lift (jerk) it out hydraulically. There's always something you missed or is hanging up when you are pulling an engine . . . Murphy's law.

 

[Tall T]

Jerry,

I said I had lifted my MF Cutter from a flat deck but it was actually a long low equipment trailer, so it wasn't that high.
I had those 130 pounds of ballast on the front then, that I have to put back on. How much ballast is on the front of your Ford?

It remains to be seen how my Cutter makes out this Spring. I did the output seal cap repair last fall but I have yet to use the Cutter; in fact, I have yet to use a PTO driven attachment so I have that new experience to look forward to.

This thread has made me feel good about my boom crane.
It seems I lucked out again because the vertical support coming up to the top link and the boom itself is heavy walled square tubing, and only the two long supports are pipe.

 

[Ultradog MN]

I believe those "pillow weights" are about
80 lbs each. I did not sell them with the
tractor so. Have 3 of them here to put on my
next project tractor.
I rarely will sell weights.
Will sell you my tractor but not my weights.

 

[gears]

Thanks Dean, it was a garage sale find - by kid #5 i had replaced the wheels all the way around, cut the old steering head out and replaced the upper bearings, one of the cranks, the seat and both pedals.... I belive it's got the new coat of paint on it in that pic. The kids call it "the grass bike" as it can easily go through the grass when their friends are stuck.

 

[PatrickB]

(quoted from post at 02:40:39 03/07/16) It is amazing what you can lift with a pole boom with careful thought. Mine is a home made post hole digger without the GM truck rear end on it. On the end of the boom I can hook a 1 ton chainfall which makes for handy lifting.

DGinVT, Is your boom pole any relation to this ol girl I got chained up here?

 

[DGinVT]

Yes!!. The only difference is I made the boom out of heavy wall rectangular tubing, Same kind of rear end. It can do some jobs where the FEL can't fit. Sorry for the delay in answering your post.

 

[Tall T]

Patrick,

Is that a 3-pt Post Hole Digger made out of a differential?

T

 

[PatrickB]

DGinVt and Tall T, I didn't make that PHD. Bought it from a tractor scrap dealer a few miles down the road from here. It was buried under trash in an out building. Yes, it's made from a rear end. The guy I bought it from said he'd seen more just like it, didn't know who made it though.

It came with a 12" bit. First time I used it I soon found that the bit was too big for this clay ground here. So I got out the portaband and turned it into an 8. No problems since; been 17 years now.

 

[DGinVT]

My digger is 9 inches in diameter and the two cutting edges are very sharp. We have a lot of clay soil here and a smaller diameter seems to work best. If I could have found one small enough, I would liked to use a two speed rear end, but one has to work with what they have.