Pre-emergent or Post?

[Fergienewbee]

I plant a variety of crops in my food plots: corn, cowpeas, wheat, clovers, sunflowers, Austrian winetr pea, sorghum, etc. I'm thinking of trying a pre-emergent next year and it looks like Prowl 3.3 fits the bill nicely. It can be pre-plant incorporated, pre-emergent and post-emergent incorporated. Does anyone have any experience with this product? Is the residual protection good? It's not as expensive as some of the others and covers most of the crops I plant.

Larry

 

[rrlund]

Are you certified? That's a restricted use pesticide unless I miss my guess. I use the generic version,Acumen. I use it post plant,pre emerge. I use it along with atrazine. Good residual,the combination takes care of most everything. I plant Roundup Ready,but with the atrazine/Acumen combo,I don't have to do much cleanup.

 

[Fergienewbee]

rr;

I guess I didn't think it was restricted, but I thought atrazine was. Prowl 3.3 is approved for potatoes, beans and about 90 other crops. I'll double check on the restrictions--winter might be a good time to take a cert class. The thing I liked, is it worked for everything I plant and according to the label/MSDS it was a very safe herbicide.

Larry

 

[IaGary]

I don't believe Prowl 3.3 is a restricted use herbicide but you better read the label and know how your going to use it.If you add atrazine to the mix then it becomes restricted use.

Lots of issues with carryover and timing of applications with Prowl 3.3.

Gary

 

[LAA]

No till or conventional?

 

[Fergienewbee]

LAA;

Conventional.

Larry

 

[Fergienewbee]

IaGary;

I leave some of my plots fallow for brood cover for turkeys or rabbit habitat. My plan for the corn patch is to broadcast crimson clover in August for a crop in late fall and next spring. That might be plowed under and planted to cowpeas. My cowpea plots will be planted to corn next year. I have a crimson clover/wheat/winter pea mix that will be disced in August, then plowed under next spring for corn. I try to rotate crops to help build the soil and take advantage of any nitrogen from previous legume crops. My corn is doing great==knee-high alrady--from the clover/vetch mix from last year. I'm aware there are some cary-over issues, but I don't see that as a big problem for the way I plant. Timing is more critical. Thanks for the comments; I'll have all winter to study up.

Larry

 

[rrlund]

Minimum till and plowed ground.

 

[Piddletime_SC]

Here Prowl is a decent product on grasses and small seeded broadleaves like pigweed and such. It is similar to Treflan but will wait longer on a rain or incorporation. There is a version called Prowl H2O that is more geared towards notill and is even better suited for no incorporation. I have only used Prowl once but used it"s cousin Treflan several times. Grass control is excellent.

Like IaGary said you need to pay real close attention to the labels because Prowl is not labeled for PrePlantIncorporated (PPI) on crops like corn and sorghum. The wheat would also give me concern.

Another product you may look into is Dual. It is a different mode of action that Prowl but is safer for corn. It is more expensive but there are generics available (Mee-Too-Lachor, etc.)

Neither, Prowl nor Dual is a Restricted Pesticide here...Good Luck, Have Fun!!