pulled the head off the L

[brian1855]

pulled the head with the help of a front end loader, nuts and head were easy. One cylinder still holding water after months under cover. Is this automatic sleeves and pistons or has anyone salvaged something like this. Any thoughts welcome. Does Case/IH still sell these parts or other options? Brian.

 

[dkeav]

Looks like you're going to get to know your local machine shop pretty well

If you need sleeves, you may check with Don L

 

[TimBinWV]

I'd soak it in MM oil for a while, at least.Or diesel/kerosene. Is the clutch stuck? If not, clean up what you can see, then soak it and give it a pull.It might break free. At least then you could get the pistons out of the sleeves...

 

[dkeav]

A 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone seems to work pretty good here, soak the cylinders in that for a week or two. Most likely though you will have to use a press to get them out.

 

[Christopher Mikesell]

Have I salvaged anything like this? Yes. However, the machine smoked a little afterwards and ended up being rebuilt. It was a Lincoln SA200 DC welding machine with 4-cylinder continental F163 engine. It had water in three of the cylinders due to a sticking exhaust valve, and the cylinders were somewhat pitted. It took two days to free it with a sledge hammer and a brass drift. I was not expecting it to free up, so I got right to it. The top of the worst piston (they were aluminum, cast iron is much more brittle, so don't even think about trying this) was pretty scarred from the pounding. In my defense, I would not even think of doing somthing like this, but the owner, my boss, wanted it done this way. You will probably want to change the sleves, and you might be able to save the pistons if you are really careful.
I would suggest removing the rust with a scraper, and then an old glaze breaking hone. Then put the head back on with the old gasket and fill the cylinders with ATF. Then make an adapter from an air hose quick disconnect and an old spark plug, and plug a cylinder into 90 psi air pressure (valves closed) and let it sit. Change cylinders every few days and watch for leakage past the rings. When you get good leakage past the rings, then you should not have too much trouble getting it to move. You can also use compressed air to help get it to move. I freed up my SC with air pressure, although it didn't have water in any cylinders.

 

[Beagle]

my L didn"t look alot better than that when I took my engine apart. The cast pistons may be in much better shape than you think, and my sleeves cleaned up pretty good with a ball hone. I reused everything but one sleeve which I broke taking out. ( double check the size of your sleeve puller ) I spent the most money getting the head into shape. Be patient, things can be stuck tight.
L engine pics

 

[dkeav]

Hey I like the air pressure idea, I will have to remember that one.

 

[Florida Glenn]

I know everyone has their own special brew when it comes to rusty metal, but my favorite is brake fluid. I can"t count the number of tires that have been rusted tight as a drum to the rim that broke free and easy when I soaked them with a little brake fluid for a couple of weeks.

Another old standby is Marvel Mystery Oil. Clean up cylinders as best you can, pour in MMO and let it soak for a month or two, (check it from time to time, you can even pull on the crank every now and then just to see what happens). I"ve had very good luck with it as well. It all depends on how fast you want to dive into this project.

It"s my understanding that ATF ain"t what it used to be. Years ago, (up till 1972) it was made from Whale oil. That became illegal in "72 and now it"s basically a high quaility petro 20 wt oil with modifiers added. Hence, the reason it doesn"t do what it used to do. (Check out "Bob is the oil guy" website - everything you wanted to know about oil and then some).

I do remember when I was a senior in high school, me and my Dad rebuilt an old C model that had cylinders looking a lot like yours. He pounded the pistons out with a sledge hammer and a bunch of scrap two by fours - went through a lot of wood and ended up destroying one of the pistons.

Good luck - Glenn

 

[Bob from Australia]

Personally, I would not pull a stuck tractor (again), especially an older Case. Might be OK with the head off as this one is, but I did real damage to a stuck C trying to pull it.

After that experience I have tried to be patient, plenty of AFT/acetone in the cylinders and try turning it over with the crank every now and again for months. I now have done several this way.

 

[applein]

brian 1855 send me a e mail on u r loction i have a L parting out

 

[Brian Knuckles]

How's the L coming along? Mine is going to have to wait until work slows down a bit. I've been saying that for far too long now. A few parts have come up on e-bay lately. I was able to pick up an item or two but missed the head and the used sleeves went way too high for my liking. Keep plugging along with it and let us know how it's going.