pulling stumps?

[rustred]

maybe tell us the size of these trees and if the plan is to cut them off then pull the stumps. cause if your just pulling 4 inch stumps then sure go for it. you probably have them out by now and people are still posting ideas.

 

[Ray,IN]

Unless you've invested in stay bars, the drawbar on a 9N has nothing to keep it from rising up. It floats on the three point arms, and can end up as high as the arms go. if the chain slides up the tree, it will pull the drawbar up with it. that's how. the only N without that issue is an 8N with a drawbar bolted to the bottom of the differential casting. You can't do that with a 9N.

What, no stabilizer arms from top link pin to drawbar? Every old Ford and Massey Ferguson came with them standard equipment.

 

[da.bees]

I just realized how much I've been overestimating the collective experience,can-do and creativity of this group while underestimating the size of their bank accounts.
I was about 12 years old first time I lifted front wheels off ground, I was 78 last time couple years ago and lost count how many times between. If a feller doen't know to step on clutch before tractor summersaults he doesn't need a tractor. Tractors and equipment aren't as idiot proof as cars so you bet your life they can kill you 5 times in a dozen ways if you don't pay attention to what you are doing. Simple deduction should tell us if a guy can't safely operate his own tractor it's a poor idea to suggest he rent a machine he has never operated before.

Assuming op can't afford to hire someone with heavy equipment, how about anchoring to one of those stumps,running wire rope through snatch block on subject stump then to truck? Or go from snatch block to come-a-long hooked to third stump. If that doesn't make stump give up it's milk add another snatch block. You can pull the General Sherman Redwood out by the roots,,,,,,,,,with enough chain,wire rope and snatch blocks.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

yea definetly not anything big, theyre stumps are probably less than a foot on the biggest one, maybe like 10-8inches and probably 12 feet high

Hmm, bigger than I was hoping. If the trees don't have a large tap root you've got a chance.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

What, no stabilizer arms from top link pin to drawbar? Every old Ford and Massey Ferguson came with them standard equipment.
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I'm not sure if I've ever seen an old Massey of Ford with those bars. Usually all the stabilizer bars are missing, and the lower 3pt arms are just dangling.

 

[Non-farmer]

What, no stabilizer arms from top link pin to drawbar? Every old Ford and Massey Ferguson came with them standard equipment.
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No, they did not. I have no idea what Massey Fergusons came with, but Ford Ns absolutely did not come with those as standard equipment.

 

[Tony in SD]

As a friend of mine once said to me, "Do the hard stuff first and farm out the impossible!" This pretty much describes your task at hand. You do not have the proper equipment to do this task safely and/or with our damaging your equipment. So this qualifies as an "impossible job" in my opinion. As others have said rent a mini excavator or skid steer with proper attachments. It will be much cheaper in the long run. Besides mini excavators are fun to operate.

 

[tractorford]

maybe a sawzall but.... the cash blown on diablo blades wouldve been prolly better to rip em out in an hour with a mini excavator for 300-400... lol

 

[TerryfromSWIowa]

Used to be able to rent a small excavator for 2 or 3 hundred a day. Thats what I would do.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Used to be able to rent a small excavator for 2 or 3 hundred a day. Thats what I would do.

Current rates for a small excavator that you could reasonably tow with an F150, at my local Home Depot:

From an independent outfit:

 

[Ray,IN]

No, they did not. I have no idea what Massey Fergusons came with, but Ford Ns absolutely did not come with those as standard equipment.

I wasn't referring to a specific Ford model.
Think about this; do you really think Ford or MF would sell you only the 3-pt drawbar to pull a wagon with, and no way to hold it solidly in place?
BTW, that picture is of a fully-restored, all original Ford tractor.

 

[rustred]

This is what I got. 6 inch 8 ton mckissick snatch block. And yes it handles a 3/8 chain. These are the top of the line equipment even made in the USA , not China.

 

[rustred]

This is what I got. 6 inch 8 ton mckissick snatch block. And yes it handles a 3/8 chain. These are the top of the line equipment even made in the USA , not China.

 

[Non-farmer]

I wasn't referring to a specific Ford model.
Think about this; do you really think Ford or MF would sell you only the 3-pt drawbar to pull a wagon with, and no way to hold it solidly in place?
BTW, that picture is of a fully-restored, all original Ford tractor.

Yes. Because they did. Neither of those sets of bars are original factory equipment, no matter how many times you choose to insist they are. Sorry. but you are mistaken about this.

And again, you are the only one talking about MF tractors. Maybe that's the source of your confusion.

 

[old-9]

Wasn't there a post on Dynamite a few days ago?

 

[Jim.ME]

Yes. Because they did. Neither of those sets of bars are original factory equipment, no matter how many times you choose to insist they are. Sorry. but you are mistaken about this.

And again, you are the only one talking about MF tractors. Maybe that's the source of your confusion.

For reference, the drawbar stay bars are shown/listed in the Ford parts catalogs for the 2N, 9N, and 8N tractors. Also, they are in some of the instruction manuals for those tractors. They may not have been shipped with every tractor, but it appears they were available as OEM equipment for/on those tractors.

 

[Non-farmer]

For reference, the drawbar stay bars are shown/listed in the Ford parts catalogs for the 2N, 9N, and 8N tractors. Also, they are in some of the instruction manuals for those tractors. They may not have been shipped with every tractor, but it appears they were available as OEM equipment for/on those tractors.

I stand corrected. Ty, Jim. But I wonder if they were standard or optional, since, as Barny pointed out, most of the Ns one sees don't have them. Mine certainly didn't have them when i got it, and aside from the pics by a former member here, iI can't remember ever seeing an N with them. There are plenty of Ns in my area, and i've yet to see one with them. So - let's ask about the particular tractor in question. Mountain - does yours have them? If not, I would either buy a set - pretty sure they're still available as aftermarket - or, as In my case, I made my own. Without them, don't try to pull those stumps.

edit - I still wouldn't use the N to pull them, even with those bars. and for reference, I know u don't have the setup on that picture, since that's an 8N, and impossible to rig on a 9 unless you replace the whole rear end of the tractor with one from an 8. Seems like a lot of effort for a small return

 

[Non-farmer]

So I guess I should have added the word "standard"

ed: oh duh, I did, in post 46.

 

[Hobo,NC]

Hi all
I plan to start farming some land on my uncle's property. There are a few nectarine and a few peach trees planted there. Not massive trees but littler orchard trees. All of them are dead, they have been for a few years, Only about 20-25 trees. I have a ford naa and 9n and id prefer not to take either out there if I don't have to. I have an 86 f150 5.0 4x4 with a low gear. Would this work fine for the job or should I just bite and use one of the fords? Its about a 5 mile drive, 30 minutes in the naa accounting for the hills and pulling over for people.

9N's are disposable when they break you have not lost much. I would not wreck a good NAA pulling stumps NAA differential housings are weak and parts are getting hard to find for the rear section. NAA are just to handy to abuse.

 

[Jim.ME]

So I guess I should have added the word "standard"

ed: oh duh, I did, in post 46.

Hard to say how many were shipped with the bars included and have had the bars set aside or discarded in the 80 years since the distribution of the 2N started followed by the other N models. My guess is If they were shipped, they were often soon seen as a nuisance and set aside.