Question for the Case experts

[J Hamilton]

I know in 1941 there was a short production of the model SC with center exhaust, smooth block, ribbed block...etc. My question is, were any of the standard S tractors equipped with center exhaust? I have never seen or heard of one and was curious.

 

[Wrangler1973]

I had never seen or heard of the center exhaust SC's until a couple years ago when I was helping a neighbor's family with his collection. He had several Case tractors one of which was a center exhaust SC. I posted pics of it on here and someone from northern Minnesota bought it. I can't offer any insight on the standard S series though, it would be interesting to know that info.


Gene

 

[chuck machinist]

(quoted from post at 20:50:27 11/28/23) I had never seen or heard of the center exhaust SC's until a couple years ago when I was helping a neighbor's family with his collection. He had several Case tractors one of which was a center exhaust SC. I posted pics of it on here and someone from northern Minnesota bought it. I can't offer any insight on the standard S series though, it would be interesting to know that info.


Gene

Ken Kizzle is the resident expert on the center exhaust SC. He should be along shortly. CM

 

[Ken Christopherson]

Yes, there were some S models built with center exhaust. I had Joan over at the Case Archives do a little research for me. Case 1941 model year started at 4500001, and the last center exhaust SC was 4503029. Unfortunately, the way Case numbered their tractors was sequential not by model, but by the next tractor off the line. So, the L, D, and S series all came off the same serial runs (this is what I was told years ago). My guess is they would build them in batches. Between 4500001 and 4503029, there were 2388 SC's produced. So, that leaves 640 tractors in that run that were not SC's. Some could have been S, D or V series. Seeing as this was the S-series first model year (a new model offering), I wouldn't think it was strange that Case concentrated their efforts on building a large batch of S-Series tractors in comparison to D and L series (the market already had a number of them out on dealer lots already)...

Now, I SHOULD have had Joan keep a tally of the total number of S and SC tractors that were produced in this run. I did ask some months later but she has yet to get back to me (it's a lot of work going through 3,030 build cards)... But, I would venture to say there were 640 or less S tractors that COULD have been produced. These would have been equipped with center exhaust. I know that Don Livingston has AT LEAST one center exhaust S.. I have seen a couple out of New Zealand/Australia as well.

Now, if you want to complicate things even further, try to identify how many smooth block tractors were built. Case did a running production change, most likely, so tracking that number would be FAR more difficult.

I have been keeping a registry for 1941 S/SC's for about 15-20 years now in an attempt to see how many center exhaust tractors are left. So far, I am under 200.

 

[J Hamilton]

Wow! Thank you for that info. I knew not many center exhaust SC tractors were left. I missed my chance to get one at an auction a few years ago, it sold for $775 complete, loose but not running with decent rubber. I wish I could have bought it. I had already spent all of my tractor fund money just a couple months earlier at another auction, but I couldn't pass on the once in a lifetime chance to get a Case crossmotor.

 

[Hoofer B]

I think some of those pics are S E X models, as they are model S for EXport. Look to be some foreign flags. I hope this does not get poofed as this is legit. Bill

 

[J Hamilton]

I think you are correct. And check out that plow in the second pic, never seen one like that!

 

[M Nut]

That someone was me With a little work to the magneto, and a good carburetor cleaning, its now running good!

 

[Wyattsackett17]

Here is my center exhaust S I picked it up last year that I lucked into for sure. It was on marketplace in a little town in the U.P of Michigan called Rock. A friend sent it to me by pure luck not knowing what he had sent me and initially I didn'tView attachment 144039 either but among looking at the picture in the ad I realized my friend had sent me what appeared to be a center exhaust S. We made the 5 1/2 hour drive to Rock on a Sunday at noon. When we got there I couldn't believe my eyes! It as far as I've seen for serial numbers it is the earliest center exhaust S still as a center exhaust. It is also from what I can tell the only one out of the few center exhaust's that has the correct smooth block engine in it! It's a long way from being done but it is slowly getting there! It is just a show princess and that's all it will be for the rest of its life to preserve the engine!

 

[used red MN]

Wyatt, welcome to YT! I see you have been here about a year, must have been a lurker. Seems like you got a fairly rare tractor. I have no idea if you are interested in this type of thing but member Ken Christopherson who replied in these threads has a YouTube channel under the name Kenny Kizzle Rusty Nutzranch. I think his last project was a 27 JD D, he also is on Facebook under the Kenny Kizzle name. By your question about the headlight brackets you apparently noticed the date stamp on posts. Also FYI, clicking on a username will show you when they were last active on the forums. Ken does not come on here much lately, looks like it has been about a year. Also you can use the search function to find members past posts. There is a shortcut, when you open their profile by clicking their username you will see Messages with a number below it. If you click number it will also open the list of their past activity.

 

[Wyattsackett17]

Wyatt, welcome to YT! I see you have been here about a year, must have been a lurker. Seems like you got a fairly rare tractor. I have no idea if you are interested in this type of thing but member Ken Christopherson who replied in these threads has a YouTube channel under the name Kenny Kizzle Rusty Nutzranch. I think his last project was a 27 JD D, he also is on Facebook under the Kenny Kizzle name. By your question about the headlight brackets you apparently noticed the date stamp on posts. Also FYI, clicking on a username will show you when they were last active on the forums. Ken does not come on here much lately, looks like it has been about a year. Also you can use the search function to find members past posts. There is a shortcut, when you open their profile by clicking their username you will see Messages with a number below it. If you click number it will also open the list of their past activi

I know Kenny and have talked to him multiple multiple times about my center exhaust! He was actually the first person I messaged after I purchased the tractor! he is a great guy! I've got multiple things I'm still looking for on this S. I'm in need of the z pipe for the air cleaner, the lights and brackets on the fenders, and the chrome strip for the hood.

 

[IaLeo]

I spent many hours as a child driving a 1940 SC, hauling feed wagons to be prepared at the mill for livestock, pulling hay wagons with loader, jumping on and off filling oat bundle wagon for threshing, plowing, etc.. Tell me, did Case give up the comfortable rubber cap on the clutch handle after '40?. That tractor was so easy and safe backing into a hookup!

 

[Wrangler1973]

I posted this on another forum talking about SC center exhaust. This was back in 2020 when I was helping a family with their father's "inventory collection" A lot of Case tractors and implements. This SC was one of them and was bought back in 2020 or 21. I can't remember when or who purchased it. Hoping they see this and can share an update on it. These are the only pics I have of it with the serial number.

Gene

 

[flmeredith]

1941 and you dont see them much

 

[Wrangler1973]

It was the first one I had ever seen or knew they made them. I have photos of other Case tractors and implements that were part of the inventory along with the SC center exhaust.

Gene

 

[watsonsgotit]

Wyatt, I have the z pipe you are needing. Please feel free to email me. [email protected]

I know Kenny and have talked to him multiple multiple times about my center exhaust! He was actually the first person I messaged after I purchased the tractor! he is a great guy! I've got multiple things I'm still looking for on this S. I'm in need of the z pipe for the air cleaner, the lights and brackets on the fenders, and the chrome strip for the hood.