Refreshing lack of information

[Jimever11]

I don't know whether to squirt it in my eyes or incinerate it.

I love it, it says what it is

Maybe I got one with no back label?

 

[formerly ny bill]

I think 00 grease is corn head grease. Seems like there would be a back label. I wonder if it will squeeze out of the top hole? Any corn head grease I have used came in a tube for a grease gun.

 

[sandcastle1]

the OO grease you have is for a cotton picker spindle

 

[Fixingfarmer]

pourable grease. thank you for reminding me I was actually meaning to see if it was still a thing for the front spindle on a couple John Deeres.

 

[john in la]

It came from Smittys.
No telling what’s in the bottle no matter what the label says.

 

[DanielW]

I assume thr 00 refers to NLGI viscosity 00 (about the same viscosity as tomato paste at room temperature)? We use 00 viscosity grease at work on a lot of linear bearing applications, especially in cold climates in non climate-controlled buildings.

 

[moresmoke]

Exactly what it says. 00 grease. As someone else mentioned commonly known as cotton picker spindle grease. Also used in some corn heads.

Common corn head grease is 0. One step thicker.

 

[Bob Bancroft]

I don't know whether to squirt it in my eyes or incinerate it.

I love it, it says what it is

Maybe I got one with no back label?

I used to get that from JD in a grease gun tube. But it tied up a grease gun, and tended to leak. Plus, I found other uses for it- mower gearboxes/etc. So I found it in a quart squeeze bottle just like this one on line and got it.

 

[Fritz Maurer]

May I ask you guys something? Why do corn heads need a heavy grease, particularly when in many cases the corn is picked during cold weather?

I have always heard about it on this site but never knew the reason . Thanks.

 

[Fred Werring]

It came from Smittys.
No telling what’s in the bottle no matter what the label says.

Gotta ask, what do you have against Smitty's?

 

[Fixingfarmer]

May I ask you guys something? Why do corn heads need a heavy grease, particularly when in many cases the corn is picked during cold weather?

I have always heard about it on this site but never knew the reason . Thanks.

So the John Deere green cornhead grease isn’t that heavy it turns to oil when warmed up if you search a YouTube video you will see some good info that’s why people like putting it in other gear boxes it’s good stuff the idea is to pack it full and then the gear box won’t leak yet be lubed by a thinner grease that turns to oil while the outside where it’s cooler stays thick enough to seal the gearbox.

Personally I replace the seals on mowers and little stuff but a cornhead is way more of a bear to work on so that type of grease on the gearboxes was welcomed. Our newest cornhead after a couple decades of grease then grease for the row unit but oil for the chopping unit is back to all 80w 90. I don’t consider 80 90 a better solution but it’s nice it’s all one thing and they don’t leak as bad as they used to. One issue related to a gearbox each season on the 608 and last year when it was super dry no issues.

Pourable grease like this is thinner all the time it doesn’t ever become thicker than it is poured out the bottle the cornhead grease comes in a tube acts like grease for a gun

 

[Jim.ME]

John Deere 0 grade grease comes in a gun tube. They call the 00 grade spindle grease and is in bulk, totes, drums, kegs, and pails since it is semi-liquid. They also have a "multi-luber' grease that is 000 grade.

 

[Fritz Maurer]

So the John Deere green cornhead grease isn’t that heavy it turns to oil when warmed up if you search a YouTube video you will see some good info that’s why people like putting it in other gear boxes it’s good stuff the idea is to pack it full and then the gear box won’t leak yet be lubed by a thinner grease that turns to oil while the outside where it’s cooler stays thick enough to seal the gearbox.

Personally I replace the seals on mowers and little stuff but a cornhead is way more of a bear to work on so that type of grease on the gearboxes was welcomed. Our newest cornhead after a couple decades of grease then grease for the row unit but oil for the chopping unit is back to all 80w 90. I don’t consider 80 90 a better solution but it’s nice it’s all one thing and they don’t leak as bad as they used to. One issue related to a gearbox each season on the 608 and last year when it was super dry no issues.

Pourable grease like this is thinner all the time it doesn’t ever become thicker than it is poured out the bottle the cornhead grease comes in a tube acts like grease for a gun

Thank you for that explanation. I have no experience with American combines... we ran Claas for 50 years and none of those corn heads ever leaked with 90W , and I didn't understand the need for special oils.

I don't think I'd be comfortable with that stuff to fix a leak, for if it turns fluid as you say, I'd be afraid it would run dry in the course of the day and bust up a lot of expensive stuff

And with Claas , you don't need to break very many things before it gets expensive.

 

[Jimever11]

I don't know whether to squirt it in my eyes or incinerate it.

I love it, it says what it is

Maybe I got one with no back label?

I'm using it for a steering box.

 

[will-max dairy]

Gotta ask, what do you have against Smitty's?

There was a class action lawsuit against Smitty's about hydraulic fluid a few years back. Supposedly, they were putting mystery oil in five gallon pails and distributing it through Tractor Supply Co. as various grades of hydraulic fluid.

Anybody that bought hydraulic fluid at TSC got a form letter from the lawyers that won the suit, saying that you were eligible for something like the value of a five gallon pail of said mystery oil, if you could prove you bought some... The lawyers kept the rest of the money.

 

[Jim.ME]

There was a class action lawsuit against Smitty's about hydraulic fluid a few years back. Supposedly, they were putting mystery oil in five gallon pails and distributing it through Tractor Supply Co. as various grades of hydraulic fluid.

Anybody that bought hydraulic fluid at TSC got a form letter from the lawyers that won the suit, saying that you were eligible for something like the value of a five gallon pail of said mystery oil, if you could prove you bought some... The lawyers kept the rest of the money.

The lawsuit was against Smitty's and some others over the yellow pail products sold as "303", as a replacement for John Deere 303 Special Purpose Oil. Saying the suit was for hydraulic oil is a bit broad of a statement.

 

[Fixingfarmer]

Thank you for that explanation. I have no experience with American combines... we ran Claas for 50 years and none of those corn heads ever leaked with 90W , and I didn't understand the need for special oils.

I don't think I'd be comfortable with that stuff to fix a leak, for if it turns fluid as you say, I'd be afraid it would run dry in the course of the day and bust up a lot of expensive stuff

And with Claas , you don't need to break very many things before it gets expensive.

it does kinda disappear daily you are 100 percent correct back when it was used in I believe the 893 dad was adamant that it get checked daily in the morning. it would be pump grease till you see it move at the hole which was often 50 shots or so so it was somewhat expensive and you would use a lot of it. But we had no gearboxes fail over the life of the unit not a single problem other than chains and snapping rolls it was a very good unit. I believe it came with the 9500 and stayed through till the last year of the 9650sts almost 20 years it was fantastic. it would toss more ears out thought that was worse. running the chopper in a tractor behind was worse as well kept the high schoolers and the 4440 that's now on the auger busy. its a trade off for an almost guaranteed 2000 bucks in parts on the new one. It is what it is.

the first 608c we had the oil would leak out fast enough when a seal went that it wasn't worth checking except at the start of the season and the new gearboxes for the most part will hold together if they have oil most that fail are full when I check them and then rebuilt the inside and reseal.

it is an interesting product nonetheless. supposedly you could flush out the gearbox and change the grease when you warmed it up dumped it then diesel fuel and then dump that put the grease back. We NEVER did that.

You are also correct on the Class being expensive. Got a taste for that at the caterpillar dealer when there weren't enough Terragators broke. I believe they have switched to fendt now the last time I were in. WONDERFUL machines Class had. Heavy built. lots of steel lines 2 rotors and a cylinder. Shaft drive heads. The big ones ate corn like crazy. But you paid for them. And all the labels on the box were German you had to open them up like Christmas to see what you had. Every once in awhile someone would get the harebrained idea in the office that we should pull a feeder house off a new one in the lot and swap it with a combine that was down to get parts I will say that was the thing that upset the salesman the most and its nice to just drive to moline on the green ones to harvester works to get a part if nobody has it.

 

[Dan in Ohio]

I use it (John Deere corn head grease) in the gear box of my post hole digger that I may use once per year.

 

[showcrop]

Thank you for that explanation. I have no experience with American combines... we ran Claas for 50 years and none of those corn heads ever leaked with 90W , and I didn't understand the need for special oils.

I don't think I'd be comfortable with that stuff to fix a leak, for if it turns fluid as you say, I'd be afraid it would run dry in the course of the day and bust up a lot of expensive stuff

And with Claas , you don't need to break very many things before it gets expensive.

Where I see it most commonly recommended is for shredder type mowers. It is very easy to pick up some wire and not know it, and ruin the seal, and replacing the seal on most of them is usually very difficult and time consuming.

 

[TomA in CA]

00 grease is used in Cat and other track rollers. It used to be sold as track roller grease in 5 gallon pails.