Right to repair

[Non-farmer]

FTC wins the day

Congrats to Deere owners

 

[Jim.ME]

FTC wins the day

Congrats to Deere owners

Having the right to repair is good, however there is another side to it. Right to repair does not mean free. Many come here looking for answers, like wiring diagrams for newer tractors, but will not step up and buy a one hundred (plus) dollar service/technical manual for their tractor that has the info they need. How many owners do you think will be able to afford the hardware, software programs and specialty tooling that may be required to diagnose and make the repairs? JMHO

 

[Phill Tibbetts]

At least they have the right. I believe if you buy something you should have the right to work on it.

 

[Watthour]

The critical step has been made.

Whether someone buys FSMs for their equipment, the OEM must now provide information in some format that is not a subscription, rental, or fee. Once that information is out there, it will be free in a matter of days.

GM and AC/Delco never sold manuals on how to reprogram ECMs, PCMs, BCMs, and SD modules in their vehicles, but with the required information available it was a short interval before the aftermarket had information to rewrite binary files and get modules to do whatever was wanted without paying the factory or dealer network.

 

[John Deere D]

Having the right to repair is good, however there is another side to it. Right to repair does not mean free. Many come here looking for answers, like wiring diagrams for newer tractors, but will not step up and buy a one hundred (plus) dollar service/technical manual for their tractor that has the info they need. How many owners do you think will be able to afford the hardware, software programs and specialty tooling that may be required to diagnose and make the repairs? JMHO

Many come here looking for answers, like wiring diagrams for newer tractors, but will not step up and buy a one hundred (plus) dollar service/technical manual for their tractor that has the info they need.

I totally agree.

 

[Charlie M]

Maybe a silly question - is there stuff a farmer can do on todays tractors? They are not your fathers farmalls any more. Since my newest tractor is 1955 I'm not up on the new stuff. Seems like once you get past oil and filter changes you need a college degree to figure the rest out.

 

[joeysmith]

Maybe a silly question - is there stuff a farmer can do on todays tractors? They are not your fathers farmalls any more. Since my newest tractor is 1955 I'm not up on the new stuff. Seems like once you get past oil and filter changes you need a college degree to figure the rest out.

The farmers of today grew up tuning an playing with electronic controlled vehicle.

 

[Non-farmer]

It seems like the point of this ruling is being missed by some. It's not about free repairs, or about preventing people from needing manuals - nor, for that matter, is it about anything but John Deere products.

Under the order filed in Illinois, Deere will now be required to make diagnostic and repair tools available to equipment owners and independent repair shops, not only its own network of authorized dealers. It also prevents Deere dealers from retaliating against equipment owners or repair shops who choose to fix their own equipment instead of paying for Deere’s services. "For too long, farmers and independent mechanics have been at the mercy of Deere’s monopoly over repair tools, forced to wait — and pay — for authorized dealers just to fix broken tractors and other equipment,” Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes said in a statement Wednesday.

 

[joeysmith]

Been an 8230 combine setting in the field behind my house waiting on the dealership for a month.

The actual repair is an easy part swap.
But the dealer has to reset the emissions system.

Luckily they have 2 machines

 

[Russ from MN]

Last fall my wife and I checked the valve clearance on our 2001 JD 4600, found all the information online. After 1500 hours only one valve was a little out of spec. I'm really glad we bought that tractor (new) when we did!