Running gear

[cumminspuller]

I've got a running gear that a friend has given me. I'm trying to figure out what model number it is. It's the older deere gear that has the odd hubs. The end of the hub where the grease cap attaches is a good bit bigger than other models. I have several 953's and the hubs are not the same. I attached a picture I found on google. Does anyone know if a rim from a 953 gear will work on this style hub or not? I don't have the gear at my house yet or I would check myself. If they will fit I'll just pull the wheels and tires off of mine and put them on this gear to make it easier to move. I was thinking people usually didn't want these gears with the odd style hub because they took a different size rim. I've never found out if that was true or not though. Thanks Chris

 

[Mike M]

Looks a lot like a tractor rim from like a model A or B ?

 

[coonie minnie]

This hub is from the earliest 953 wagon, as well as the952, an earlier wagon. The rims on these will interchange with the other long hub models, like later 953s. The 953 wagons built from about 1956 on used a shorter hub with different rim. That rim uses a slightly larger bore center hole. The bolt pattern is the same.

Clear as mud, right?

 

[cumminspuller]

Coonie, the later 953's you mention would they have a regular style grease cap or would they be the other style of having the JD emblem in the hub like the one pictured above? In the 953 parts catalog it shows this hub but with a brake drum attached to it. This gear I'm getting does not have brakes. I assumed it was a different model number because of that. I'm not good on model numbers for running gears though. So the hub on the style pictured above is slightly larger than the hubs on other 953 gears. Is that correct?

 

[Leroy]

The dish for the newer hub is reversed. But I thought center was still same size. And combine wheels fit as well as Ford tractor front wheels. Every 6 lug implement wheel you will find has same size center hole. And my parts books do not show a brake drum for the 953, only the 963 that is slightly heavier.

 

[Leroy]

The newer hub caps are just a smooth round cap

 

[coonie minnie]

The long hub models all have the jd cast in the cap, and it threads on. The wheels will interchange between all the long hub models. I am traveling ? I?ll post some pictures when I get home.

 

[cumminspuller]

Alright coonie, that answers my question. The long hub with JD in the grease caps is what the rest of my gears are. I'll just pull the wheels off of one of them and stick them on the new one to get it moved around when I get it home. Thanks for the help. If you get time when you're done traveling I'd still like to see the pictures you mentioned.

 

[coonie minnie]

The wheels for the newer short hubs have a slightly larger hole.... they will fit this hub-the studs will line up- but the center hub will not contact the rim center. Consequently, there is no "shoulder" for the rim to sit on, and all the load will be carried by the studs.

The old rim like the one pictured will have too small a hole for the new "short" style hub.

 

[buickanddeere]

The classic JD cast bearing cap cover, nice to have. iirc that is 1954 or earlier.

 

[coonie minnie]

Here are some pics of different 953 hubs.
<image src="http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/photos/mvphoto7009.jpg"/>
This is the earliest hub. Very early 1940s, also used on 952 wagon.

<image src="http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/photos/mvphoto7010.jpg"/>
This is a later hub, used from the 40's through 1955.

<image src="http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/photos/mvphoto7011.jpg"/>
This is the "short hub" or ASAE standard, used from 1956 on. According to the parts book, there may have been a different variant of this hub used after 1964.

Hope this helps.