Save the US mail

[JohnE/pa,]

Solution for the USPS money problems....charge full price for all the junk mail that constantly fills my mailbox that I have to pay to get rid of!!!

 

[pconnie]

AMEN

 

[don t. - 9n180179]

If the junk mail contains a return postage paid envelope, send it back to them.
I figure, whats good for the goose.....

 

[Dean]

Bingo.

The USPS has managed to morph itself into a subsidized delivery service for junk mail.

Dean

 

[willie in mn]

Bear with me a minute, actually junk mail pays more than first class for the cost of handling.
Example:
A first class letter must be sent from local P.O. to regional sorting center. There it is sorted, either by hand or machine, consolidated with other mail going to final destination, or in the same direction, sorted again to final P.O., then sorted again by final route carrier. All movement is by USPS or contracted carriers, paid for with the $ 0.46 stamp.
Junk mail travels by truck carrier from printer to final P.O. Millions of copies, all the same, never needs to be sorted. Hauling is paid by the printer, who includes the cost in his bill to the advertiser. Truck carrier drops assigned pallets of mail at regional center or local P.O., a full trailer load at larger cities, or spread out to many smaller centers. Local P.O. does not have to sort, just hands out number of copies to each local carrier to match number of customers on his/her route, who puts one in each box.
Have been there, done that. Picked up at printer in Reno, first drop at Baton Rouge, then New Orleans, Mobile, Jacksonville, Tampa, final in Miami. Another load started in Miami, then up to Jacksonvile, across to Pensacola, up to Nashville, final in Knoxville, with about 10 drops scattered in between. Took a total of 4 days. USPS is only involved with final route delivery.
Willie

 

[oldtanker]

(quoted from post at 13:06:54 02/27/13) Bear with me a minute, actually junk mail pays more than first class for the cost of handling.
Example:
A first class letter must be sent from local P.O. to regional sorting center. There it is sorted, either by hand or machine, consolidated with other mail going to final destination, or in the same direction, sorted again to final P.O., then sorted again by final route carrier. All movement is by USPS or contracted carriers, paid for with the $ 0.46 stamp.
Junk mail travels by truck carrier from printer to final P.O. Millions of copies, all the same, never needs to be sorted. Hauling is paid by the printer, who includes the cost in his bill to the advertiser. Truck carrier drops assigned pallets of mail at regional center or local P.O., a full trailer load at larger cities, or spread out to many smaller centers. Local P.O. does not have to sort, just hands out number of copies to each local carrier to match number of customers on his/her route, who puts one in each box.
Have been there, done that. Picked up at printer in Reno, first drop at Baton Rouge, then New Orleans, Mobile, Jacksonville, Tampa, final in Miami. Another load started in Miami, then up to Jacksonvile, across to Pensacola, up to Nashville, final in Knoxville, with about 10 drops scattered in between. Took a total of 4 days. USPS is only involved with final route delivery.
Willie

So Willie, yer saying that if charged full price the USPS would make even more money! I like this idea!

Rick

 

[Rich'sToys]

What he's saying is that the Post Office makes a good share of its money by delivering that stuff, even with the lower rates that they pay. If it weren't for that stuff, your regular stamps would be a lot higher.
Actually we're getting a pretty good deal for 46 cents.

 

[oldtanker]

1. I was being sarcastic.

2. At 46 cents we are not getting a good deal when I can send hundreds of mails a day from my puter for a lot less than 46 cents each and have them delivered almost instantly.

RIck

 

[Dave Sherburne NY]

Saw an article a few days ago, Postal service is gonna sell a line of clothing Maybe that will save the USPS. Who wants to be first in line for a Pea Coat $500
Postal fashions

 

[John in Mich]

I've been doing that for years. Sometimes even mix junk. Why send it back? 1: I don't have to carry it out with trash; 2: My landfill does not receive it; 3: USPS gets paid for delivery by advertizer 4: Advertizer has to open it, someone has a job; 5: Advertizer trash is carried out by employee, a job; 6. Advertizer's state landfill gets the trash. Any other benefits?
ps I do remove my name and address from ALL mail.

 

[carlntexas]

(quoted from post at 11:20:17 02/27/13) If the junk mail contains a return postage paid envelope, send it back to them.
I figure, whats good for the goose.....

add some weight to it so it makes USPS more money.

 

[Royse]

Another thought, they could charge a nominal fee for all those shipping boxes.
You know, the fancy red white and blue ones that say USPS on them that they
give away and deliver for free in an attempt to get you to use their service.

USPS Boxes

 

[Tom N MS]

Amen

 

[muleboss]

(quoted from post at 19:48:54 02/27/13) I've been doing that for years. Sometimes even mix junk. Why send it back? 1: I don't have to carry it out with trash; 2: My landfill does not receive it; 3: USPS gets paid for delivery by advertizer 4: Advertizer has to open it, someone has a job; 5: Advertizer trash is carried out by employee, a job; 6. Advertizer's state landfill gets the trash. Any other benefits?
ps I do remove my name and address from ALL mail.

When you send it back,all it does is raise the cost of products that was advertised. Who do you think pays the return postage? The customer.

 

[willie in mn]

Rick
Yup
WJ

 

[retired farmer]

Used to get the same thing for a nickel.

 

[Sycamorecreek]

I'm sorry but The USPS lost over 13 billion dollars last year. Selling an overpriced clothing line will not save them.

 

[Rich'sToys]

(quoted from post at 22:38:56 02/27/13) Used to get the same thing for a nickel.

And gas was 20 cents a gallon, and minimum wage was $1.25 an hour. What's your point?

 

[oldtanker]

(quoted from post at 11:50:15 02/28/13)

(quoted from post at 22:38:56 02/27/13) Used to get the same thing for a nickel.

And gas was 20 cents a gallon, and minimum wage was $1.25 an hour. What's your point?

OK take the price of a stamp X2X30.....so 46X2=92x30=2760. So 2 letters a day for 30 days would cost me 27.60 plus the cost of envelpoes and paper. For 60 bucks a month I can send 100+emails a day and don't have to pay any extra if they are 10 pages.....so what's yer point???

Rick

 

[Geo-TH,In]

I posted this today on tractor talk today.

I recently purchased a neck warmer for $1.25, free shipping, on ebay. Yes it came from Shen Zhen, China via AIR MAIL. It weighted .05 KG. Took about a month to get. Thought it was shipped on a slow boat from China.

Who is paying the freight on an item that came from half way around the world? I even had to go to the post office and sign for it.

Is there some agreement that the post office has to handle the mail from China for free? I can't send a letter across town and have someone sign for it for $1.25.
George

 

[Rich'sToys]

The original point of the thread pertained to junk mail vs. 1st class mail. The point was made (and rightly so) that the money made off junk mail helps to keep the costs down for 1st class.
Of course email is cheaper-that's why so many people are doing it. But there are still things that can't be sent that way. And for the type of service they provide, the PO is still cheaper than most other countries. Do they have their problems? Of course they do. Some of them are of their own making, but many of them are not. You can thank your elected representatives for that! We all know they screw up whatever they get their hands on!
And yes, full disclosure, I used to work for them-for over 21 years. In fact, I retired 4 years ago today!

 

[JMOR]

If close down entirely, it would cut down on the clutter in my house! See, sometimes you just need to look at the bright side.

 

[Eriklane]

A reasonable solution is to cut a day or 2 delivery. Most of us can live with that. I can. Do we SOMETIMES have a package or deliver we really want? Sure. 90% of the time, frankly, I could use mail 3x a week.

But, again, punish those that drove it to where it is. Someone has to be accountable...

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 22:03:06 03/01/13) A reasonable solution is to cut a day or 2 delivery. Most of us can live with that. I can. Do we SOMETIMES have a package or deliver we really want? Sure. 90% of the time, frankly, I could use mail 3x a week.

But, again, punish those that drove it to where it is. Someone has to be accountable...

n government operations, no one is accountable! Some low level scape goat is always found to throw under the bus though!

 

[ScoutB]

I have almost 250 names on my blocked sender list in my email program. I wish I could apply that same concept at my mailbox.