Shifting problem

[Jeff Pritts]

My TO20 is doing something different this year. I have a 3 point finish mower and I like to switch between 2nd and 3rd gear sometimes. But I can't seem to take it out of gear, especially 2nd. I try to relieve the gear bind by rolling it forward or back, or slip the clutch but that doesn't help. However, when I disconnect the PTO, the transmission will shift like butter. Any ideas?

 

[Ericp351]

First insure correct tractor fluid within and good level and then live with it. sorry, normal.

 

[Jim L WA]

My TO-20 is reluctant to shift out of those same gears too. I never tried disconnecting the PTO. I'll have to try that. I'm running UTF in mine.

 

[John Deere D]

My TO20 is doing something different this year. I have a 3 point finish mower and I like to switch between 2nd and 3rd gear sometimes. But I can't seem to take it out of gear, especially 2nd. I try to relieve the gear bind by rolling it forward or back, or slip the clutch but that doesn't help. However, when I disconnect the PTO, the transmission will shift like butter. Any ideas?

This shifter Fork takes a lot of redneck force over the years.........
The fork is of a non Ferrous material ...
Yes, I own a Ferguson TEA-20 with the same internal Transmission parts as your T0 20....
Fortunately...your T0 20 has a two peace Transmission cover.
Remove cover and verify that SHIFTING FORK is NOT BENT........
Forty years ago this shifting fork was bent on my TEA20..

Bob....Owner of Tea-20 Ferguson that has been on my property since new.....

 

[Mad Farmer]

Do you have a ORC on the PTO shaft?

 

[Duner Wi]

Try shifting PTO to neutral before trying to shift transmission from 3 to 2 or 2 to 3. Make any difference?

 

[Jeff Pritts]

My TO-20 is reluctant to shift out of those same gears too. I never tried disconnecting the PTO. I'll have to try that. I'm running UTF in mine.

Give that a try and let me know. I'll bet that makes all the difference.

 

[Jeff Pritts]

This shifter Fork takes a lot of redneck force over the years.........
The fork is of a non Ferrous material ...
Yes, I own a Ferguson TEA-20 with the same internal Transmission parts as your T0 20....
Fortunately...your T0 20 has a two peace Transmission cover.
Remove cover and verify that SHIFTING FORK is NOT BENT........
Forty years ago this shifting fork was bent on my TEA20..

Bob....Owner of Tea-20 Ferguson that has been on my property since new.....

I will check that out. Thank you.

 

[Jeff Pritts]

Do you have a ORC on the PTO shaft?

I think you're onto something here. In past years I used an ORC and the tractor always shifted just fine. This year I'm not using it and having problems shifting. I had forgotten that change. Please tell me what you're thinking and how it relates.

 

[Jeff Pritts]

Try shifting PTO to neutral before trying to shift transmission from 3 to 2 or 2 to 3. Make any difference?

That's the problem, I can't get it out of gear and into neutral without pulling extremely hard on the shifter.

 

[Duner Wi]

That's the problem, I can't get it out of gear and into neutral without pulling extremely hard on the shifter.

You have difficulty putting the PTO engagement lever to not engaged?

 

[Mad Farmer]

I think you're onto something here. In past years I used an ORC and the tractor always shifted just fine. This year I'm not using it and having problems shifting. I had forgotten that change. Please tell me what you're thinking and how it relates.

On a N not a Fergy. But a few times rotary mowing I've hit stuff and the blades jammed up up and motor stalled, I could not get the tractor to shift out of gear or start. I had to free the mower or rock the tractor to get it to shift. I had an ORC on it but I believe the PTO and and the gears were still jammed up

 

[Jim L WA]

Give that a try and let me know. I'll bet that makes all the difference.

It will be awhile. Mine is still sleeping from the winter. However I don't have anything attached to the P.T.O. so doubt that that will make any difference.

 

[Jeff Pritts]

You have difficulty putting the PTO engagement lever to not engaged?

No, I have difficulty getting the transmission out of gear unless I take the the PTO out. Once I take the PTO out of engagement the transmission shifts just fine.

 

[Ericp351]

Hi one last time Mr. Jeff. Most of us advised check over your machine. Fix and troubles, then live with it. Nature of (pretty nice) beast. No intent to insult if you lack a left arm to manipulate the PTO lever, et cetera. The only semi politically correct may just say " man-up."

 

[John Deere D]

That's the problem, I can't get it out of gear and into neutral without pulling extremely hard on the shifter.

If you keep pulling the gear shift with excessive force,you shall BEND and or break the shifting fork, (1st and 2 nd shifter fork) as per picture.
I had to reduce the free play on the clutch PEDAL.
I eventually replaced the clutch assembly...all works great.

 

[John Deere D]

That's the problem, I can't get it out of gear and into neutral without pulling extremely hard on the shifter.

Check as per picture,and possibly lessen amount of free play.......

 

[Joe Ferguson]

My TO20 is doing something different this year. I have a 3 point finish mower and I like to switch between 2nd and 3rd gear sometimes. But I can't seem to take it out of gear, especially 2nd. I try to relieve the gear bind by rolling it forward or back, or slip the clutch but that doesn't help. However, when I disconnect the PTO, the transmission will shift like butter. Any ideas?

When it occurs try to push down the hydraulic lever if the hydraulic pump is working when you depress the clutch it may put little tention on power train.

 

[Jeff Pritts]

Hi one last time Mr. Jeff. Most of us advised check over your machine. Fix and troubles, then live with it. Nature of (pretty nice) beast. No intent to insult if you lack a left arm to manipulate the PTO lever, et cetera. The only semi politically correct may just say " man-up."

While I can appreciate your concern of my physical prowess, I've had this tractor for the last 22 years and I'm pretty familiar with it's normal performance. I really doubt that I've lost that much masculinity since last fall.

 

[Duner Wi]

Do you have the same finish mower this year as in previous years when you did not have difficulty shifting the tractor
4 speed transmission?