soil conditioners

[andydap]

hi everyone,
any opinion on which conditioner is better. i'm looking at a good used unverferth 8' perfecta and a new sundown sc-8. one question is about the quality of each. this perfecta uses straight boards behind the s tines while the sundown uses spikes. seems to me that the spikes would kick up more rocks vs the flat board. don't know, what do you think?

 

[Newgenerationdeere]

I think it would be dependent on how much trash you had in the field ? The flat board would be great in clean fields the spikes would be better if there was crop residue left over

 

[Texasmark]

I don't know the answer to your question. As I have posted somewhere...forgot where, I have a 4 shank Pasture Renovator that has coulters to split sod prior to the shank's arrival and the shanks are heavy steel, about 1" wide replaceable tips that can be adjusted to 12" deep penetration. I pull it with a 65 HP 4wd tractor in mid range gears with the draft set as necessary to prevent intermittent loading.

I have hard clay with no rocks so I don't know about rocks. Since the tips are thin but scoop shaped on the front, several options could be encountered in rocky terrain and a lot would depend on the size and shape of the rocks.

I don't know how a person worried about rocks could do any kind of sub-soil work as you never know when you are going to encounter one and don't know what its going to be.

 

[560Dennis]

What is your soil composition? Clay,loam ,sandy loam , or sandy loam , Have a talk with your soil ,county extension agent. One mistake takes years to recover from.

 

[Texasmark]

What is your soil composition? Clay,loam ,sandy loam , or sandy loam , Have a talk with your soil ,county extension agent. One mistake takes years to recover from.

If you are like me, the county ag. agent caters to the BTOs.....doesn't have time for us SYOs. A waste of time!!!!!

 

[560Dennis]

If you are like me, the county ag. agent caters to the BTOs.....doesn't have time for us SYOs. A waste of time!!!!!

I don’t accept that , I get an answer right quick .

 

[Newgenerationdeere]

A county agent will look like a deer in the headlights he isn’t going to know anything about what tillage implement to use .

 

[Texasmark]

I don’t accept that , I get an answer right quick .

Good for you. I'm in black clay and the pond spillways like to erode away and if you let them they will erode all the way back to the pond and drain it. My spillway had receded back toward the pond to the point where I was standing at the fall point...vertical point where the water fell over the dirt. My stomach was up against the bank and my nose was at the top of the dirt....right at 6' of vertical drop...what started out as a smooth transition.

I drove around the "hood" looking at how the county handled drainage problems. They would take a "horn" (steel culvert) and make an L out of it which caused the water to fall onto steel rather than dirt, then the long part of the L would carry the water out in the horizontal attitude smoothly with no "fall" impact causing erosion.

I bought a used 30x3' horn and made it into an L placing it where I was standing. Filled in around the mouth and sloping out toward the end with dirt then came back and made a concrete bowl around the inlet and putting a pipe guard around it to keep people and animals from falling into it.

On one occasion, after a hefty rain, I went out and took pictures of the area, showing how well the new design controlled the water flow and stopped the erosion. Packaged all that up and sent it to the county agent and never heard from him......So much for having an idea that I know other farmers/land owners in the area could use and getting the word out.....Pffffffffffft!

 

[560Dennis]

Good for you. I'm in black clay and the pond spillways like to erode away and if you let them they will erode all the way back to the pond and drain it. My spillway had receded back toward the pond to the point where I was standing at the fall point...vertical point where the water fell over the dirt. My stomach was up against the bank and my nose was at the top of the dirt....right at 6' of vertical drop...what started out as a smooth transition.

I drove around the "hood" looking at how the county handled drainage problems. They would take a "horn" (steel culvert) and make an L out of it which caused the water to fall onto steel rather than dirt, then the long part of the L would carry the water out in the horizontal attitude smoothly with no "fall" impact causing erosion.

I bought a used 30x3' horn and made it into an L placing it where I was standing. Filled in around the mouth and sloping out toward the end with dirt then came back and made a concrete bowl around the inlet and putting a pipe guard around it to keep people and animals from falling into it.

On one occasion, after a hefty rain, I went out and took pictures of the area, showing how well the new design controlled the water flow and stopped the erosion. Packaged all that up and sent it to the county agent and never heard from him......So much for having an idea that I know other farmers/land owners in the area could use and getting the word out.....Pffffffffffft!

Interesting !