Steering Sector Shaft Toast???

[tractorford]

what say yous-- is this ford steering sector shaft a lost cause ??? based on those gouges
i thought about jb-welding it then i came to my senses... i could probably never get the 'cylinderical shape' to happen like it was... what grits would i need-- surprisingly not so common part ive come to found out---i thought theyd be a dime a dozen on the interwebs- people just giving them away -- i believe the part number is 8N3526B (the shaft closest to the seat)

 

[flying belgian]

Um, I've had good success filling with epoxy then emery cloth.But I guess I've never had any that big. I'm talking pitted cylinder shafts.

 

[tractorford]

Um, I've had good success filling with epoxy then emery cloth.But I guess I've never had any that big. I'm talking pitted cylinder shafts.

sounds good... ill have to spend a few weeks "researching" this method heheheh

 

[used red MN]

Did you search by part number, left or right? I assume power steering? See link, X out of the request to pick a dealer.
CNHI Ford 850 PS gear box diagram

 

[caterpillar guy]

Well since the gouges don't appear to be on the wear surface where a seal or bushing runs I would not worry about them or see if you could shim the shaft up or down a bit. Other wise a new or used shaft or filling is in order.

 

[tractorford]

Did you search by part number, left or right? I assume power steering? See link, X out of the request to pick a dealer.
CNHI Ford 850 PS gear box diagram

yea its the power steering, this shaft is the one closest to the seat- the pitman goes on the end of this on the left side as youre sitting on the tractor-- okay ill give that a go- thankfully its just this one thats given me troubles the other one is dry and true-

 

[wore out]

yea its the power steering, this shaft is the one closest to the seat- the pitman goes on the end of this on the left side as youre sitting on the tractor-- okay ill give that a go- thankfully its just this one thats given me troubles the other one is dry and true-

WHAT the heck happened to it? D the gouges actually extend into the area where the seal lip resides?

 

[tractorford]

yea i want to say they do.... thats why im rather. remiss.... with the entire situation..... i believe the seal would usually sit here-abouts... but-- perhaps some "attempt" at "fixing" at this point before buying another one for $200+ dollars is the way to go -- as I would have to wait a week or two for the new one to arrive at any point...

 

[ss55]

Well since the gouges don't appear to be on the wear surface where a seal or bushing runs I would not worry about them or see if you could shim the shaft up or down a bit. Other wise a new or used shaft or filling is in order.

2X if the gouges do not run under a seal they might not hurt anything. Are the gouges from trying to remove the pitman arm?

Speedi-Sleeves are a fast way to repair worn seal contact surfaces on shafts. They are not cheap, but they do save a lot of labor. They are available in a wide variety of metric and English sizes.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/search?text=Speedi-Sleeve&referer=v2

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[ss55]

2X if the gouges do not run under a seal they might not hurt anything. Are the gouges from trying to remove the pitman arm?

Speedi-Sleeves are a fast way to repair worn seal contact surfaces on shafts. They are not cheap, but they do save a lot of labor. They are available in a wide variety of metric and English sizes.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/search?text=Speedi-Sleeve&referer=v2

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

https://hvhindustrial.com/pdfs/SKF-Speedi-Sleeve.pdf

 

[tractorford]

2X if the gouges do not run under a seal they might not hurt anything. Are the gouges from trying to remove the pitman arm?

Speedi-Sleeves are a fast way to repair worn seal contact surfaces on shafts. They are not cheap, but they do save a lot of labor. They are available in a wide variety of metric and English sizes.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/search?text=Speedi-Sleeve&referer=v2

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

i believe they are from trying to remove the seal... apparently some form of drill bits were used with titanium Milwaukee brand most likely. one of these seals- atleast the new "bushing" went in correctly. so that is good-

 

[kencombs]

I agree with trying to fix it. Just be sure it's really clean of oil and such, slather on your choice of goo. Sand just a little with some coarser paper to break the shine off the goo after it hardens. The use a strip of wet or dry around 4-600 grit like a shoe shine rag to get it really close. Then shift to the old shoe string and wet or dry in 6-800 with WD40 for a lube till it just fills the gouge, and no more. Bet it works as well a a new one.

 

[Steve in VA]

https://hvhindustrial.com/pdfs/SKF-Speedi-Sleeve.pdf

I've had great luck with speedi-sleeve but not sure it it would fit in this application.

 

[Hemmjo]

Its not like it is on a race car, repair it as good as you can then use )) grease instead of oil in it

 

[tractorford]

heheh true dat.... i had filled it up with lucas hub oil - but i read that 00 grease is the way to go apparently, since it wont leak out from the seals/bushings as much- i just want to be done with the steering for a good while after this... since the rest of the steering setup is doing better nowadays---

 

[Hobo,NC]

yea i want to say they do.... thats why im rather. remiss.... with the entire situation..... i believe the seal would usually sit here-abouts... but-- perhaps some "attempt" at "fixing" at this point before buying another one for $200+ dollars is the way to go -- as I would have to wait a week or two for the new one to arrive at any point...

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If you have the means machine the box so the seal will set deeper into the box are spot well and turn down.

 

[SPMN]

yea i want to say they do.... thats why im rather. remiss.... with the entire situation..... i believe the seal would usually sit here-abouts... but-- perhaps some "attempt" at "fixing" at this point before buying another one for $200+ dollars is the way to go -- as I would have to wait a week or two for the new one to arrive at any point...

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Use it as is & use corn head grease for lube & it won't leak out. HTH,

 

[tractorford]

If you have the means machine the box so the seal will set deeper into the box are spot well and turn down.

i think i get what you mean, i dont have the means just quite to start shaving into the housing itself to make the seal seat go deeper-- but i might just be ****feelin lucky... (do i) ....to attempt heheheh but something tells me--- to leave that to someone who doesnt get so excited as it is with a drill (as it is)

i did just find this... must resist the temptation.....

 

[Hobo,NC]

i think i get what you mean, i dont have the means just quite to start shaving into the housing itself to make the seal seat go deeper-- but i might just be ****feelin lucky... (do i) ....to attempt heheheh but something tells me--- to leave that to someone who doesnt get so excited as it is with a drill (as it is)

i did just find this... must resist the temptation.....

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Is the box machined for the seal stop are dose the seal butt again the bushing ?

 

[VicS]

i think i get what you mean, i dont have the means just quite to start shaving into the housing itself to make the seal seat go deeper-- but i might just be ****feelin lucky... (do i) ....to attempt heheheh but something tells me--- to leave that to someone who doesnt get so excited as it is with a drill (as it is)

i did just find this... must resist the temptation.....

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Any local machine shop can fix in 30 , min or less. Or you weld it and file and sandpaper it down.