Stripping 3000 for transport

[Mudrig150]

This is going to sound really stupid, but I'm kind of in a weird spot right now.
My 3000 needs a lot of parts to be any sort of decent, it's kind a piece of crap. I found a parts tractor that's in pretty decent shape, but I have no way to haul it (also the parts tractor has a blown up engine). That's not saying that I lack a trailer, the issue is that my truck physically can't haul it complete so I would need to strip off about 1000 lbs of weight to get it to a point where the truck isn't sitting on the bump stops. Truck hauled my diesel home but it was a rough drive, and the parts tractor is even further away.
What all could I easily strip off to haul it home easier? I know I can do sheet metal and tires easily, but could I in theory split the transmission from the diff housing and haul it home in two separate trips?

 

[sotxbill]

Dual axle 16' trailer.. with the tractor positioned mostly to the front.. so that the trailer is a bit nose heavy, but not overloading the truck. Or maybe you need to borrow a real truck?? Incorrect trailer loading will make it very difficult, dangerous, and even bumpy, as the trailer must be put a load on the pickup, but not to the point of putting the truck on the bump stops. Your tractor is only 3900 lbs and a half ton truck should easily pull a loaded 6000 lb trailer load. If you have less than a half ton, you need a different truck. But you can always pay to have it hauled if your unsure or incapable. And if your unsure, never drive over 50 mph with trailer... for safety reasons... If you load correctly, then 65mph is fine. Then we get into trailer brakes.... Most states any load over 3000lbs requires trailer brakes... so now another vote for having it hauled for some folks.

 

[Eman85]

How far away in mi? I'd say it would be worth it to pay someone to haul it safely instead of going through disassembling it and trying to load it in pieces and making 2 trips to do it.

 

[Jim.ME]

Be clear on what you have to get the most and best thoughts/advice.

What is your truck?

What is your trailer?

How are you going to handle the pieces to load it if you strip it or disassemble at the point of origin?

 

[Mudrig150]

Be clear on what you have to get the most and best thoughts/advice.

What is your truck?

What is your trailer?

How are you going to handle the pieces to load it if you strip it or disassemble at the point of origin?

Truck is a Silverado 1500 with the towing package, rated for 7500 lbs.
I will be renting a U-haul car hauler to bring it home.
My plan is to go there, strip a bunch of parts off, and then come back seperately for the rest of the tractor. The biggest issue is that the truck may have the suspension capacity to haul it but the transmission was really unhappy and was barely able to keep cool through the drive. Hauling my diesel was definitely worse than this gas machine, it had to be put on the trailer as far forward as possible to keep the blade on the trailer, so the tongue weight was excessive, and I don't know exactly how much the gas machine weighs compared to my diesel considering my diesel has weighted front AND rear tires, and had a 1000 lb blade on it.
The big issue is that it's not actually MY truck, it's a family friend's, and I don't think he would appreciate me blowing the transmission on the new truck up like our previous truck that killed a transmission at 13,000 miles from hauling trailers all the time.

 

[Jim.ME]

Truck is a Silverado 1500 with the towing package, rated for 7500 lbs.
I will be renting a U-haul car hauler to bring it home.
My plan is to go there, strip a bunch of parts off, and then come back seperately for the rest of the tractor. The biggest issue is that the truck may have the suspension capacity to haul it but the transmission was really unhappy and was barely able to keep cool through the drive. Hauling my diesel was definitely worse than this gas machine, it had to be put on the trailer as far forward as possible to keep the blade on the trailer, so the tongue weight was excessive, and I don't know exactly how much the gas machine weighs compared to my diesel considering my diesel has weighted front AND rear tires, and had a 1000 lb blade on it.
The big issue is that it's not actually MY truck, it's a family friend's, and I don't think he would appreciate me blowing the transmission on the new truck up like our previous truck that killed a transmission at 13,000 miles from hauling trailers all the time.

Borrowed truck, rented trailer, time spent stripping parts, two trips; it sounds like you would be best served by just hiring a ramp truck to haul it.

 

[MM-TX]

The biggest issue is that the truck may have the suspension capacity to haul it but the transmission was really unhappy and was barely able to keep cool through the drive.

I gotta ask. What makes you think you won't owe your family members friend a transmission anyway if you follow through with this plan? Sounds like that transmission is ready to say: tag you're it!

 

[Mudrig150]

I gotta ask. What makes you think you won't owe your family members friend a transmission anyway if you follow through with this plan? Sounds like that transmission is ready to say: tag you're it!

On the last truck the first transmission went at 13k but the replacement was fine for another 60k until the truck got wrecked. It was replaced under warranty iirc.
The transmission in the new truck was hot because it was mostly uphill driving at 55 mph and it was 95 degrees the day we dragged my diesel home.

 

[Mudrig150]

Not to mention the fact that he needed a truck specifically for towing and decided to get a 1500 instead of a 2500 both times. It has the towing package and is rated for 13k total gvwr so it's not like I'm going over the gvwr or anything, just trying to lessen the stress on it.

 

[MM-TX]

On the last truck the first transmission went at 13k but the replacement was fine for another 60k until the truck got wrecked. It was replaced under warranty iirc.
The transmission in the new truck was hot because it was mostly uphill driving at 55 mph and it was 95 degrees the day we dragged my diesel home.

OK. If the truck is healthy and trailer loaded correctly why make it harder with 2 trips?

 

[Mudrig150]

OK. If the truck is healthy and trailer loaded correctly why make it harder with 2 trips?

...You know, I'm not entirely sure. I guess I kind of disproved my entire point of saying that the truck struggled because it never got past 210° on the trans temp and it was on the bump stops because I loaded the trailer wrong. I suppose it will be fine.
I was literally just told that I was allowed to use the truck as long as I didn't blow up the transmission, which is what I'm trying to avoid.

 

[MM-TX]

...You know, I'm not entirely sure. I guess I kind of disproved my entire point of saying that the truck struggled because it never got past 210° on the trans temp and it was on the bump stops because I loaded the trailer wrong. I suppose it will be fine.
I was literally just told that I was allowed to use the truck as long as I didn't blow up the transmission, which is what I'm trying to avoid.

Well if that truck did say: Tag you're it! borrowing it wouldn't be much of a bargain even though tempting. Good luck.

 

[Jim.ME]

...You know, I'm not entirely sure. I guess I kind of disproved my entire point of saying that the truck struggled because it never got past 210° on the trans temp and it was on the bump stops because I loaded the trailer wrong. I suppose it will be fine.
I was literally just told that I was allowed to use the truck as long as I didn't blow up the transmission, which is what I'm trying to avoid.

Do a bit of research on typical transmission temperatures of a 1500 Silverado when towing and you will find the temperature was within range for the conditions you described. Mine are older and have Allisons but they typical run close to the engine temperature when towing anything substantial.

If you have any doubts, just hire a ramp truck.

 

[Mudrig150]

Do a bit of research on typical transmission temperatures of a 1500 Silverado when towing and you will find the temperature was within range for the conditions you described. Mine are older and have Allisons but they typical run close to the engine temperature when towing anything substantial.

If you have any doubts, just hire a ramp truck.

I'll probably just do what I did with my tractor and load it properly this time. Last time I hired a ramp truck it was like $800 for 65 miles because the guy charged me for the time spent loading, transporting, unloading, and then cleaning the truck afterward... he only said I would only be paying for half that.

 

[a49deere]

A 1500 chevy should have no problem hauling a ford 3000!

 

[Sean in PA]

The last time I paid to have a tractor moved was about 10 years ago when I had it delivered from my property to my local New Holland dealer for some service work and then back again. I used a local tow truck company with a rollback flatbed truck. They charged me $93.00 each way, but the dealership was only about 15 miles from my property. Most of the cost was listed as loading and unloading and for their insurance. The mileage charge was only a small fraction of the total.

 

[Welding man]

I have a Ford F150 and a 20 Ft trailer that I haul 2 tractors, a Cockshutt 30 and an 8N, on at the same time. I would think that a 1500 Chevy would handle a 3000 Ford with ease.

 

[Brown David]

Borrowed truck, rented trailer, time spent stripping parts, two trips; it sounds like you would be best served by just hiring a ramp truck to haul it.

I wouldn't have to think about that for 30 seconds.

Ramp truck/rollback truck is the answer. Anything goes south, not your problem.

 

[SkipperII]

Truck is a Silverado 1500 with the towing package, rated for 7500 lbs.
I will be renting a U-haul car hauler to bring it home.
My plan is to go there, strip a bunch of parts off, and then come back seperately for the rest of the tractor. The biggest issue is that the truck may have the suspension capacity to haul it but the transmission was really unhappy and was barely able to keep cool through the drive. Hauling my diesel was definitely worse than this gas machine, it had to be put on the trailer as far forward as possible to keep the blade on the trailer, so the tongue weight was excessive, and I don't know exactly how much the gas machine weighs compared to my diesel considering my diesel has weighted front AND rear tires, and had a 1000 lb blade on it.
The big issue is that it's not actually MY truck, it's a family friend's, and I don't think he would appreciate me blowing the transmission on the new truck up like our previous truck that killed a transmission at 13,000 miles from hauling trailers all the time.

The 1500 has a tow/haul function, mine was a button on the end of the shift lever, that keeps it from shifting into overdrive. It should haul a Ford 3000, with the weight balanced just slightly ahead of the axles, with no problem. If it's hitting the stops, you have it loaded way too far forward. You should be renting a double axle trailer. I pulled a 26 foot fully loaded travel trailer with mine, over a couple Cascade mountain passes several times.

 

[Steve in IL]

I don't see where you have said how far the new tractor is from you. Given your lack of owning the needed equipment, I'd suggest getting a quote from a local rollback operator. Weigh that against your cost to rent the trailer, buy gas, take time, with your buddy's truck. The Ford 3000 is well within your capabilities to haul. But if you're not comfortable doing it, using a more expensive paid operator is certainly understandable.