stuck ac b

[klg]

okay i just got back with a b model thats been sitting for a couple years i bought for little of nothing its complete with good tin and tires but the motor stuck the guy pulled the plugs last week and put some oil in i pulled it a little ways no luck what should i try next.

 

[fordtractor2000]

you know i ve had luck with the mixing ATF and acetone 50/50 and dumping it in, don t do it in a shop it can be a little flammable, but in the long and short of things drop the pan and look up and if you see rusty sleeves plan on a motor job, but even so you can soak it for weeks, maybe get it to turn and hope the rings aren t stick or just buy a rebuild kit from this site, there prices are real fair and then you ll have a good freshened up motor when you are done.

 

[klg]

im in no hurry. i can turn the motor a little bit so im hoping it will break loose. but if it dont i cant decide how far to go on the rebuild

 

[floyd md]

I had a C that had not run in over 25 years, pulled the plugs and put in a 50/50 mixture of ATF and Marvel Mystery oil, let it set a week, put it in gear and rocked back and forth, it broke loose right away. Smoked like a freight train for about 20 minutes when I started it, but cleared right up and runs great.

 

[old]

NEVER EVER TRY TO PULL ONE TO FREE IT UP. Doing so can/will brake things that will cost you more then you payed for the tractor to fix. I would wick out that oil and FILL the cylinders with ATF and let it sit. One thing that does sound good is that you can turn it a little bit so the best thing you can do is pull the starter and use a pry bar and turn it back wards as far as you can then fill with ATF and let it sit. Then with the plugs out set a 12 volt battery in it and see if it will spin over almost bet it will. Oh always be sure to put the plugs back in when you are waiting for the ATF to do its thing and ALWAYS pull them out to try spinning it over

 

[klg]

i didnt pull it too long because i knew if it didnt break loose something else might break i can get started on your plan and see what happens thanks alot i will need your help as i go along with project

 

[old]

Just to let you know 90% of the tractors I get have engines that are or should I say where locked up and so far I have only had one of 2 that did not pop free. Now I know you will not want to here this but one was an Allis C which is the same engine as the B.

 

[Jeff Z.]

You may want to pull the head and check the valve seats. When engines set for long periods moisture get's in through all the valves that are open and the seats could be a rusted mess.

 

[DickL]

All depends on where it set while it got stuck. It set under cover you might have a chance with the magic potions. It set where rain could get down into the manifold you will never dream it into a good running tractor. I have a few hundred pictures you might want to spend time looking thru to see what it most likely looks like inside.

The stuck engine album was created to dispell all the expurts vowing that the pistons had to move to remove the crankshaft without breaking something in a stuck engine.
Those pictures are only a sample of what I have in this site of engine repair. Feel free to look around.
STUCK ENGINE ALBUM

 

[klg]

well the atf went in so i guess i will wait and see

 

[jeff parkinson]

I bought a model b 3 years ago. didnt have a shed so it sat outside. was in perfect condition when i parked it. now its locked up tight. when i pulled the oil plug it was full of water. how did the water get in. it had a good rain cap on the exhaust.

 

[DickL]

If it has an above the hood muffler the rain runs down the muffler pipe that fits/slips (inside the manifold).

I tap all of my B, C,and CA manifolds for 1 1/4" pipe nipples and fit the muffler pipe over the pipe nipple. With a rain cap it is then water tight.

 

[jeff parkinson]

thanks. any idea how to ree up the motor without tearing the motor down?

 

[DickL]

I personally want to take a stuck engine apart and get the damage from rust repaired. If it has water from setting for a long time, and three years is a long time, you do have rust damage. Rust damage is pits and no amount of any magic potions will repair that. They loosen the rust build up and let the rust build up to move away from the pits it bubbled up out of. The bubbled up and out rust is still a form of the metal it was before it bubbled up and if you buy a tube of grinding compound it will be a form of metal mixed with a form of oil.
That is my reason for taking a stuck engine all the way down, as you see in my pictures, to a bare block and making sure each part has been brought up to proper specs before assembly.

 

[DickL]

 

[jeff parkinson]

good news. i managed to get the tractor freed up. now I need to know how the plug wires should be connected. I took them off to have the mag worked on. now I cant seem to get them right. I could get her to run on three cylinders but not all four. I know she is geting fire and gas. can anyone get me the info I need?