stump is out

[Ellis Kinney]

I posted a picture of me digging out a stump by hand on tractor talk. Those of you who read the post and saw the picture will be relieved to know I pulled the stump with the M. Ellis

 

[mike_inw]

sometimes easier ... stand a wheel rim upright next to the stump & run the chain/cable over the rim. converts horizontal to vertical pull

 

[DR. EVIL]

Tying chain to the top of a long stump works best. Pull it over then rehook chain lower on stump and pull it out, and pulling downhill really helps. I'd say Ellis was doing it right.

I've had small evergreen bushes I had both my M and Super H chained to, both tractors on bare dry concrete and could not pull the bush out. Most times I'm the only tractor operator, have to switch between tractors.

 

[C.Amick]

and helps to prevent the tractor from flipping over.

 

[chuck2015]

(quoted from post at 09:15:43 11/29/18) I posted a picture of me digging out a stump by hand on tractor talk. Those of you who read the post and saw the picture will be relieved to know I pulled the stump with the M. Ellis
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to me it looks dangerous the way you are trying to pull. Should the chain slip off or break it could fly and hit you?

 

[LPakiz]

Another technique that helps is this: gently tighten up the chain, then spin both wheels down 4-8?. Back up onto the loose dirt a few trimes to pack it down. Then back up onto the loose dirt. Shorten the chain about a foot. Then you will be pulling downhill into the ruts.
Of course, good judgement determines what size chain to use, how you hook it, and how deep to make your ruts.

 

[HappyJack]

(quoted from post at 06:29:40 11/30/18)

(quoted from post at 09:15:43 11/29/18) I posted a picture of me digging out a stump by hand on tractor talk. Those of you who read the post and saw the picture will be relieved to know I pulled the stump with the M. Ellis
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to me it looks dangerous the way you are trying to pull. Should the chain slip off or break it could fly and hit you?

We always hang a jacket or towel or something on the chain we are pulling with - if it breaks or comes loose the weight of the jacket causes the chain or cable to drop.

 

[DR. EVIL]

Yep, Done that with everything from a Cub Cadet to a 4020 with turbo, neighbor's tractor, My Super H wouldn't begin to budge the 10,000# poured in place concrete steps. I pulled a couple dozen scrub brush trees one afternoon with the Super H digging ruts and shortening the chain. Works O-K if the ruts left afterwards don't matter.

 

[tomdowling]

only cables snap and fly, chains never fly more than a couple inches, once a link is overstressed it will break and all
tension on the other links is relieved. a cable is a continuous strand, stress is relieved over the entire length causing it
to snap back. You should never pull with a steel cable.

 

[OldFarmall450]

(quoted from post at 09:15:43 11/29/18) I posted a picture of me digging out a stump by hand on tractor talk. Those of you who read the post and saw the picture will be relieved to know I pulled the stump with the M. Ellis
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Looks like you did a good job of getting the stump out Ellis...there's always someone who'll come along and tell you how it should be done.

We pulled lots of stumps in the 80's with a JD A, Chain, shovel and sharp axe...Now the same field has several that need removing...looking forward to using my 450...I'll buy lunch and your fuel if you wanna drop by...lol

 

[Ellis Kinney]

Thanks for the comment. I had the stump loose enough that it would move if I kicked it before I put the chain on it. I never really pulled the stump, I just
backed up a little and let the tractor roll forward, did this several times. This tree was a Norway blue spruce that I planted in 1975. Two years ago it
mostly died in the middle of the winter, which I found unusual. I researched it but could never find anything conclusive. It was 14 inches where I cut it
off. Ellis

 

[txdutchman]

And you be wrong. Seen chains fly thru windows of tractors when they broke. My cousin nearly got killed when I was a kid because of that.
Just last week someone posted some pictures on a different forum of a chain that snapped and flew up into his head. Took several stitches.

 

[OldFarmall450]

(quoted from post at 16:26:24 11/30/18) only cables snap and fly, chains never fly more than a couple inches, once a link is overstressed it will break and all
tension on the other links is relieved. a cable is a continuous strand, stress is relieved over the entire length causing it
to snap back. You should never pull with a steel cable.

As far as chains vs cables... when i worked in earth moving construction there wasn't a chain on the job site. We used cables to pull start almost everything, and to pull them out of mud. Im talking about D8 and D9 cats, 631 scrapers, sheep foot rollers, Diamond Rio twin screw dump trucks , 966 and 988 loaders...
I saw ONE cable pulled in 2 by a D9, trying to unstick a loaded 631 with 30 yards of wet dirt, it sounded like a cannon, no one was hurt, ... but NO CHAIN a human could carry would stand the load we put on them.
ANYTHING can fail... look at the 2 space shuttles and all the tech that went into them.
But saying you shouldn't pull with cable is ridiculous.