Super H

[GI FARMER]

Can anyone tell me how to tell if I have a Super H or a plain ol H. I have looked at several on the web and the emblem on the hood is the same as the ones on a Super?? did someone change the hood??

 

[DeltaRed]

The easiest way is the serial # plate.Also look at the brakes:band vs disk(some of the late Hs also had disk brakes),Starter botton or pullrod.There should be a Y(1953) or a X(1954)casting date on the rear end housingPictured is a1953 SuperH.

 

[mkirsch]

Why do people always start off with "A Super H has disk brakes, and a plain H has band brakes?"

Most people don't know how to tell the difference between band brakes and disk brakes!

Here's the difference:

Band brake covers are smooth steel and almost look like pie pans. There is a little arm with a spring sticking out the side that connects to the brake pedal linkage.

Disk brake covers are heavy cast steel. They are held on by several bolts through the face. There is a small steel "button" cover in the center, which is sometimes missing. The linkage is down toward the bottom, and is just a bolt sticking out toward the front of the tractor, which is connected to the brake pedal linkage.

There are other differences.

The engine will have "C-169" cast into the side of the block in the spark plug area.

Later Super Hs will have a battery box under the seat.

Super Hs will have a small square IH emblem on the grille. Plain Hs have a large FARMALL emblem on the grille.

Your mileage may vary. Parts are interchangeable between Hs and Super Hs. A guy in my area is parting out a "mutt" that's half H, half Super H.

Odds are heavily in favor of you having a plain H. There were only about 25000 Super Hs manufactured. There were over 300,000 Hs manufactured.

 

[gene bender]

Sheet metal can be changed i would look for the cast codes to see when they were made. Check all of them as even some of those parts could have been changed remember they are over 50yrs old and who knows where all they have been.

 

[Bob M]

(quoted from post at 09:23:24 01/14/11)

The engine will have "C-169" cast into the side of the block in the spark plug area.

Correction: Super H block will have "C-164" (not C-169) cast prominently on the upper right side of the block above the oil filter canister. A regular H block will be blank here.

 

[rustyfarmall]

Just to add to what the others have mentioned, A super H will have the larger carburetor, very similar to the carburetor on an M, but that doesn't mean that a regular H MIGHT not have the large carb also, IF someone changed it out.

 

[GI FARMER]

Thanks fo all the info just as I thought someone must have changed the hood because mine has the little IH in the front. again thanks for the help

 

[rustyfarmall]

(quoted from post at 07:58:23 01/14/11) Thanks fo all the info just as I thought someone must have changed the hood because mine has the little IH in the front. again thanks for the help

The sheetmetal will interchange, so the only to know for sure is to check out the serial numbers, part numbers that are cast into the part, and of course the casting codes.

I've got a "frankenstein" H out in my shop that apparently was assembled from many different used parts from a salvage yard. Depending on which casting code I decide to use, that H COULD be labled as anything from a 1941 H to a 1953 Super H.

 

[heavy hauler too]

A 53 sh will have bat under gas tank with no live pump.

 

[GordoSD]

SH has a three bolt starter vs two onan H.

Gordo

 

[CNKS]

Until about October, serial break was 19234, last 53 serial was 22201. I have 20594 with a factory live pump.

 

[D Slater]

Gordo, more SH used a 2 bolt starter than the ones with 3 bolt.