superior loader bucket cyl

[vrfoetis]

Hi, im hoping someone can steer me in the right direction. I have recently acquired a Ford Jubilee with a superior loader, mod H-218 s. the bucket cyl is in desperate need of a rebuild. Can someone tell me where I can find the right kit?
Thanks, Vince

 

[rustred]

Hi, im hoping someone can steer me in the right direction. I have recently acquired a Ford Jubilee with a superior loader, mod H-218 s. the bucket cyl is in desperate need of a rebuild. Can someone tell me where I can find the right kit?
Thanks, Vince

pull the seals out and take them with you to a hyd shop which deals in seals and that stuff. motion industries or fluid power we have in edmonton. just asking for that is of not much help, they will say obsolete.

 

[Jim.ME]

Welcome to the forums. Giving an idea of your location might get a lead to a shop near you that might be able to help you.

Superior loaders are far from current. As rustred posted you will most likely need to take the seals to a hydraulic shop that rebuilds cylinders and have the seals matched up. If you want to pull it apart and try matching things up places like Baum Hydraulics have online info of seal designs and measurements, you can use to match them up for yourself. You can call them and ask if they already have a kit for your cylinder put together that doesn't show in their online catalog.

Or take the cylinder to a hydraulic shop and have them rebuild it for you.

 

[vrfoetis]

Thanks for the info. I'm in the upper peninsula of Michigan, not much up my way. I will give Baum a try

 

[DanielW]

Many/most cylinders of that era used vee-pack seals. And they usually limited themselves to standard 1/4" increment dimensions on their bore/rod/seal sizes. There's a lot of good info online about rebuilding cylinders with vee-packs that explains the process better than I can, so I won't bother explaining it here. But if it has vee-pack seals in one of the standard increments, you can usually order them online pretty easily.

But with that being said, I haven't rebuilt a cylinder for several years. Unless it's an uncommonly-large or unusual cylinder, you can usually get aftermarket cylinders quite cheaply. And more often than not, the old cylinders have some scoring/pitting, have worn (or no) chrome on the rods, might be only single-acting, have lousy old-school vee-pack seals, or the cost for all the seals, wipers, and backing rings to rebuild one is as much as a new aftermarket cylinder. New universal cylinders are available for $200-$300 (here in Canada 'Princess Auto' is where most folks go. Not sure what the equivalent might be in the US. I know some folks order from 'Surplus Centre'). The aftermarket cylinders are cheap, problem-free, and will usually be far better than a rebuilt one because they'll have fresh chrome on the rods, no scoring on the bore, modern style seals (Princess Auto sells replacement seal kits for any of their cylinders for peanuts), are suitable for both double and single acting (if you don't have down-pressure you can add it), and usually rated for very high pressures.

Just replaced the two main lift cylinders for the Wagner loader on our Cockshutt 540. They were about $200 each, and the new ones are waaay better than the old ones would have been after rebuilding.

https://www.princessauto.com/en/3-in-bore-threaded-head-utility-cylinders/product/PA1000000432