Talk about slanted!!

[John Saeli]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lD2RBdrXGI

 

[connor9988]

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[Roger Roemen]

Did anyone notice that the AC had a mounted plow and the case had a pull type plow

 

[Foxtail]

I wonder if the Case was ran in Caseomatic drive? I once knew an Oliver block man who referred to traction booster as traction cheater because it would lift the plow slightly the harder it pulled thus also reducing the load.

 

[Bret4207]

Not sure it's the same person posting the video, but I saw that one years back on YT and posted my opinion that it was BS. No way the AC is going to walk away with the Case.

 

[John Saeli]

Those Allis' are sure footed, no doubt, just watch them at tractor pulls, but the Allis had mounted or semi mounted plows and the 800 had
trailers. And as for the drawbar pull, what do you think the 800 would have done to the D17 if they had used an Eagle Hitch Drawbar on the
800?

 

[rustred]

that test should have been done with two identical tractors and plows. two different tractor brands not accurate in fuel usage. and to be really accurate the same tractor should have been used with the same plow, same shears, same tires, same air pressure , same speed. and so on.

 

[Don Rudolph]

That video just proves you can sell anything. My own Dad was talked into buying an AC Air-Champ planter by the local dealer, saying it was the latest and best design on the market. What a piece of junk LOL When it came time to trade it in, nobody wanted it.

 

[kenbob]

As far as the tractor to tractor pull, to make the allis weight equal they added weight right where it did the most good. I have seen it many times at a tractor pull where a weighted A John Deere out pulls a G. All because the extra weight is in the right place.

 

[olgentdc]

she would have towed the d-17 into the grandstand seats

 

[olgentdc]

which is really Alice's point! the transfer of weight is key to being able to pull the plow ,providing there is enough power. Allis was proud of their weight transfer, it did work, but it was as complicated as getting the
gleaner combine to do a clean job. too many steps to overlook. Golly, if You were not raised around these ol'Allies, It took quite a few seasons to understand their magic. The methods of transfer were drawn on the battery box of the WD, but that did not make it easy for a novice.
. Some farms traded them for another brand, rather than school themselves with trial and error methods. The hand clutch on a WD worked fine as a kid, but when i got full grown, it was far too confining having that lever crammed into my lap.

 

[SVcummins]

Im not a case guy but anybody knows a drawn plow doesnt give any weight transfer like a mounted or semi mount

 

[Bret4207]

I'm not going to bash AC, they were good tractors and the Snap Coupler system was good. But the video isn't a fair test, it's slanted to give AC all the advantages.

 

[XT180]

Wow OLgent!!You must have put on WAY too much weight to have that hand clutch in your lap !!!!