TCH fluid

[Animal]

This has probably came up numerous times, can I use good quality aftermarket oil to replace TCH?

 

[Brian1570]

Not in case crawlers! Use only TCH fluid, there is a difference.
Brian1570

 

[Animal]

It goes in a 580C.

 

[TGP]

goes in a 580C.[/quote]

I assume you are talking about the power shift shuttle?

At one time they used "Dextron" ATF then developed there own TCH fluid which supposedly has a better additive package.

I have used atf without any problems on a 580 D in a pinch.
The high heat environment is the reason for the better fluid(TCH) and it's clutch additive package.

Normal Hyd. oil works fine in the Hyd. system

If at all possible I would get the proper fluid.
Tom

 

[Case Nutty 1660]

Use cnh HY-Tran!!

 

[Part Time Pete]

I use Hy-Tran in my 580E
Pete

 

[Brokengun]

If its for a 580C the answer is "NO" my suggestion is too use Hytran only.

I have posted my 1370 case story before on how I was told Marathon 577 was the same as Hytran/case oil. Well its not!

I lost every fiber clutch and brake in the tractor. Had to split the tractor several times before i got everything fixed.

NO one needs that kind of trouble.

 

[mEl]

Brokengun,
you are probably the best friend I've got on the oil argument. In my 50+ years working in the same shop I have seen the damages that "same spec as HY Tran" can cause. I have seen backhoe cylinders so tight that they squealed from swollen packing that I've had to put on a rollback truck and pull the barrel off of the rod/gland assembly. The gland seals so brittle that they crumble when trying to remove them and everyone of them used a certain brand of substitute oil that "met Case's specs". When I told my customers to switch back to Case oil I was threatened with a lawsuit, funny thing I never got sued.

As far as engine oils are concerned I have good friends on the other side of the argument, I prefer straight weight in engines that have no multivis recommendations due to some engine failures that were directly caused by multivis having ingredients that ate the sealing o rigs off the sleeves. That oil was Agway 10/30 and ruined the engine in a 530 gas ag tractor. That experience left an indelible impression on me as I had the pleasure of rebuilding a tractor with only about 200 hrs on it

I fully expect the fury of the multivis crowd to be unleashed upon me as in previous times when I stated my opinion but will not be swayed to use multivis in anything earlier than the CDC engines.

Usually I just set back and don't get involved in the oil argument but I was hoping that someone else would tell him to stick with good Case HY Tran.

Thanks to all that did