Tedder tine orientation

[SHALER]

Picked up a used 4 rotor older new holland tedder. My question is about the correct orientation of the tines on each arm. Should the tines that extend to the ground be on the leading edge of the time arm, or the trailing edge? I would think the times should be on the leading edge, allowing the coil in the tine to compress if an obstruction is encountered, but on this tedder there is no consistency , some tines are in front of the arm, others are behind it.

 

[Jim.ME]

Picked up a used 4 rotor older new holland tedder. My question is about the correct orientation of the tines on each arm. Should the tines that extend to the ground be on the leading edge of the time arm, or the trailing edge? I would think the times should be on the leading edge, allowing the coil in the tine to compress if an obstruction is encountered, but on this tedder there is no consistency , some tines are in front of the arm, others are behind it.

What model? At least some NH tedders were made by others and re-branded. Post some pictures so we are all looking at leading, trailing etc. the same. My thought is trailing edge lets them compress on a NH made by Kuhn.



Edited to add drawing of tine mounting

 

[Mike(NEOhio)]

Any one I've seen the coil should get compressed as the tine is pushed back by the hay. Same with rakes, baler pickups and haybine reels. Would probably work the other way but will not last as long.

 

[495man]

The rotor shown turns clockwise. Kuhn tedder. Kuhn made all the NH tedders as far as I know.

 

[Phill Tibbetts]

The bottom of the u that the bolt goes through goes in the direction of rotation.

 

[deere4040]

Learned a lot about tines on tedders couple years ago. Bought a new Pequea 6 rotor in 2015 and while it did a good job it wasn't great. In 2nd cutting it tended to windrow no matter what you did. Other reviews of that brand of tedders yielded similar results. 8 years we studied, questioned, posted on forums, talked with Pequea service dept., everything. We had gotten to the point next opportunity we would be getting a different tedder. LONG story short I called service dept again. and within 5 minutes of hanging up the owner of Pequea called me. Offered me the opportunity to try out the new model of the tedder and if it did what I needed it to I could buy it at cost with in house financing through him.

Brought it home and admired the shiny paint. Inside the owners manual container was a paper I had never seen with mine.

Walked back and forth between my tedder and the new one and.......................sob all my tines were backwards. Every single one. Correct color sequence but back wards. Took my tedder to the shop and spent the next several hours turning the tines. Called the dealer sales rep and asked him what he wanted me to do. Told him what I found and was confident that the issue was resolved. Told me the owner gave me the tedder to use, use it. That was one of the best weekends I have ever had. Running 2 tedders side by side. Being able to compare them and saving a lot of time tedding at the same time. We tedded over 60 acres that weekend and I don't think we had 5 hours of seat time.

My tedder is setup for max aggression and the new one is factory settings. The results were very noticeable.

If you think you are not having a good spread pattern check your tines. End result is my tedder tedds awesome. With the 6102 set at factory settings the 6100 is outperforming it. Adjust the 6102 and it will do as good as the 6100 and a much lower rpm. The speed difference in the rotors is very significant. The 6102 beside mine makes the 6100 look chintzy, they have really beefed up this series over the years. I could feel the weight difference on the tractor. In the end there was nothing wrong with mine I just lacked one little crucial piece of information. We will be in the market for a 2nd tedder and it will be a Pequea. The customer service is 2nd to none.

2020

2023 with tines correct

 

[caterpillar guy]

Few companies will go that far to help anybody these days especially, a smaller farm operation. I've never had a tedder and would have only a handful of times really thought I needed one. Not saying they don't have their place ,just never thought I needed one enough to buy one. Usually can mow one day and put up the next in Alfalfa. Sometimes at the early or late end of the season it would be nice to have a tedder to toss it around some to fluff it better.Usually just let it lay a second day and all works well.

 

[deere4040]

Few companies will go that far to help anybody these days especially, a smaller farm operation. I've never had a tedder and would have only a handful of times really thought I needed one. Not saying they don't have their place ,just never thought I needed one enough to buy one. Usually can mow one day and put up the next in Alfalfa. Sometimes at the early or late end of the season it would be nice to have a tedder to toss it around some to fluff it better.Usually just let it lay a second day and all works well.

Just a couple years ago I got to experience no tedding. We had 1st cut drought at end of May. I do all my own forecasting and I missed crucial information because we don't experience it in NWPA. The ground and air was so dry that moisture was leaving the hay in 2 directions. I still tedded once but in hindsight we could have mowed one day and baled day 3 without tedding. Yields were extremely light. Fields that produced 100+ sq. bales/acre were only at 30. The hay was so dry it shattered during baling. Round bales were nothing more than chaff when done baling. It was bad. With the tedder working correctly I have reduced tedding on 2nd cutting from 5+ times to 2 and maybe only once pending yield and weather.