throttle and governor

[Bastropian]

Thanks to all on this board for many excellent tips.
I have a 51 8n side mount that has always had a small oil leak from the governor. I took it apart, cleaned it well, and put a new gasket. It now has a much worse oil leak coming from the old place, which is the seam to the housing, and a new leak from the oil line, just above the threads where it goes into the brass elbow.
And to make things even worse, I must have done something to the throttle linkage rods, because now moving the throttle does not make the the rod that goes from the governor to the carb do anything whatsover. The tractor runs on idle speed, and will not rev up any. I am sure I did not switch the two rods.
So in order to fix a small oil leak, I created 2 bad oil leaks and a new throttle problem.
Any help on any will be greatly appreciated.

 

[FLAcharlie]

thread sealant and gasket sealant ought to take care of 2 of the problems, I have no idea on the throttle problem.
I used "Real-tuff" PTFE paste thread sealant on the elbow, but I have several different Permatex gasket stuff in my box and can't remember which I used.
But I assure you mine also leaked BAD until I used the gasket stuff.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 14:09:02 10/04/10) Thanks to all on this board for many excellent tips.
I have a 51 8n side mount that has always had a small oil leak from the governor. I took it apart, cleaned it well, and put a new gasket. It now has a much worse oil leak coming from the old place, which is the seam to the housing, and a new leak from the oil line, just above the threads where it goes into the brass elbow.
And to make things even worse, I must have done something to the throttle linkage rods, because now moving the throttle does not make the the rod that goes from the governor to the carb do anything whatsover. The tractor runs on idle speed, and will not rev up any. I am sure I did not switch the two rods.
So in order to fix a small oil leak, I created 2 bad oil leaks and a new throttle problem.
Any help on any will be greatly appreciated.

he tall arm goes to throttle and the short arm(closest to engine) goes to carb.

 

[Bastropian]

Thanks for the reply.
This is how I have the two arms. When I move the throttle, its arm moves but it has no effect on the carb arm. I am thinking that something got messed up when I took the governor off, but not sure what.
I read the 2 books I have to see if there is an adjustment I can make, but the only thing I saw was the part about the spring, which in my case is pretty tight.

 

[Bastropian]

Thanks FLAcharlie, I will try both.

 

[Gramps in NM]

Linkages connect short to short arm on gov., long to long arm on gov. I cut out a second gasket and used two of them. seems these faces can "warp" some. Check your throttle arm on carb for freedom of movement, or the reverse, to much play.

 

[HCooke]

You've gotten good advise on the leaks. I'll try to help with the throttle. Did you take the gov apart? Do you have an exploded diagram of it (FO4 Manual)? When you have the gov in hand, you should be able to sping the gear by hand and watch it move the levers. With the gov on the tractor you should be able to rev up the tractor by hand with the rod from the gov to the carb and the gov should fight you (pull back).

 

[Bastropian]

Thanks to all I was able to find what was wrong with throttle on my 51 side distributor. I took the governor apart and the steel balls and race were in excellent shape, but the retaining clip that keeps all parts in place was gone. I replaced it, and now the throttle works exactly like it's supposed to. I did not know that the throttle was also a function of the governor.
I was also able to stop the oil leak.

Next issue I have is the spark plugs. They get fouled every time I run the tractor. I have adjusted the carburator, which is new, the points gap, also new, and the spark gaps. But still I can't keep them running clean. The tractor also smokes (black) slightly, which may also be a symptom.
Is there something else I need to be paying attention to in order not to have to take the plugs every time to clean them?
Thanks for all your help.