Throttle linkage bracket on head

[G.Bott]

1942 9n 12v conversion. I'm putting the old girl back together. I was looking and something didn't look right about the throttle linkage, then I realized I took a bracket off that held the end on the block. When looking around I found a bolt that has a hole in it. I believe this is it. But I can't remember how it went, can somebody tell me and/or post a picture. Its the bracket that holds the linkage still at the head. I guess I was getting to excited putting it back together and misplaced this.
Thanks,
G.Bott MI

 

[Sean (TX)]

It goes behind #1

 

[G.Bott]

Lol that isn't the part I found. Does anyone know where I can find a replacement bracket and spring.
Thanks,
G.Bott

 

[Dennis Conner]

Are you refering to the Generator adjustment bolt and spring? If so, you will not use that with the 12V conversion.
Post a pic of what you have and someone will be able to help.

 

[G.Bott]

No I'm talking about the part that Sean showed. I remember taking it off and the spring but I can't remember where I put it apparently the part I have doesn't go to it. I do have the generator mounting bracket and spring and I put them in a box for later if someone wants to restore it to original. So if I don't find it soon I'm going to need to buy a bracket and spring if anyone knows where I can buy them. Its getting ready to snow here in Michigan.
Thanks,
G.Bott

 

[Dennis Conner]

Found one on Ebay. Item 310175200158
Untitled URL Link

 

[G.Bott]

Thanks alot for the info. I looked at the link and it looks like it include the bracket that I need. I should be able to by a replacement spring on here or something. I know as soon as I buy it I will find the one I have but oh well.
Thanks again,
G.Bott

 

[Walston]

Maybe this helps:

 

[GB in MT.]

[b:904208ed4d][i:904208ed4d]

Here is a manual scan that shows the whole throttle setup for the 9N/2N.
Note the hand circle around the bracket and also the part#'s for the bracket and the spring you need.
Just make another post as to the parts you need....and maybe someone will have them off a parts "N".

HTH

Gary [/i:904208ed4d][/b:904208ed4d][b:904208ed4d]

Contact: Jim Bills, via email--- [email protected]
He may have what ya need!!![/b:904208ed4d][b:904208ed4d][/b:904208ed4d]

 

[G.Bott]

After looking around forever and cleaning my garage. I found that secret hiding spot that I put it in. LOL. Now I just need to get the spring I didn't find that. How important is the spring I'm going to get one, I was just wondering. Whoops I already bid on a bracket on ebay.
Thanks for the help,
G.Bott

 

[GB in MT.]

[b:90fd026d3b][i:90fd026d3b]

Too bad about the bid on EBAY,....now you might get a spare bracket!! :lol:
BUT....You have to have that spring.!!! That is the Gov. compensation
spring. If it is not there...your governor cannot work correctly, with the throttle, and carb.!!!

Gary [/i:90fd026d3b][/b:90fd026d3b]

 

[Hobo,NC]

I can not see how it affects the governor at all,,, is it not part of the manual throttle linkage,,, if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do,,, I have seen'em missing on 8n and 2n and when replaced you can not tell the difference,,, if your throttle plate and throttle are working as it should the throttle will stay put,,, I am open if someone wants to explain the purpose of the spring

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 12:13:22 10/18/09) [b:876daaeb14][i:876daaeb14]

Too bad about the bid on EBAY,....now you might get a spare bracket!! :lol:
BUT....You have to have that spring.!!! That is the Gov. compensation
spring. If it is not there...your governor cannot work correctly, with the throttle, and carb.!!!

Gary [/i:876daaeb14][/b:876daaeb14]

Part # 9n-9827. Can you explain to me how the "governor cannot work correctly" without this spring?

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 21:16:03 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 12:13:22 10/18/09) [b:4888932263][i:4888932263]

Too bad about the bid on EBAY,....now you might get a spare bracket!! :lol:
BUT....You have to have that spring.!!! That is the Gov. compensation
spring. If it is not there...your governor cannot work correctly, with the throttle, and carb.!!!

Gary [/i:4888932263][/b:4888932263]

Part # 9n-9827. Can you explain to me how the "governor cannot work correctly" without this spring?

I can't.

My '49 8N gov didn't have one.

But then it never worked correctly, over a copule of days at a time, no mater what I did, or how many times I replaced it with a rebuild.

That is the reason for my one wire, Chevy 10-SI, 6v, positive ground, alternator.

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 17:04:22 10/18/09)
I can not see how it affects the governor at all,,, is it not part of the manual throttle linkage,,, if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do,,, I have seen'em missing on 8n and 2n and when replaced you can not tell the difference,,, if your throttle plate and throttle are working as it should the throttle will stay put,,, I am open if someone wants to explain the purpose of the spring

The only reasonable explanation for this spring that i can think of is ......when you have the tractor half to full throttle the governor (when worked) can infact move the throttle lever [b:ba7746ec62]IF[/b:ba7746ec62] the plate is worn and/or the tension spring on the lever is weak or broke.
If you look at how the bracket and spring are designed , you will notice how the first half of the throttle movement the spring will pull the throttle lever towards the idle position. About half throttle to full throttle the spring will pull the throttle lever towards full throttle position thus keeping tension against the working governor. Thats how i see it. I could be wrong.

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 22:10:21 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 17:04:22 10/18/09)
I can not see how it affects the governor at all,,, is it not part of the manual throttle linkage,,, if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do,,, I have seen'em missing on 8n and 2n and when replaced you can not tell the difference,,, if your throttle plate and throttle are working as it should the throttle will stay put,,, I am open if someone wants to explain the purpose of the spring

The only reasonable explanation for this spring that i can think of is ......when you have the tractor half to full throttle the governor (when worked) can infact move the throttle lever [b:143b05e92d]IF[/b:143b05e92d] the plate is worn and/or the tension spring on the lever is weak or broke.
If you look at how the bracket and spring are designed , you will notice how the first half of the throttle movement the spring will pull the throttle lever towards the idle position. About half throttle to full throttle the spring will pull the throttle lever towards full throttle position thus keeping tension against the working governor. Thats how i see it. I could be wrong.

Give me a hit ofn that, please...

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 17:40:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 21:16:03 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 12:13:22 10/18/09) [b:7661163388][i:7661163388]

Too bad about the bid on EBAY,....now you might get a spare bracket!! :lol:
BUT....You have to have that spring.!!! That is the Gov. compensation
spring. If it is not there...your governor cannot work correctly, with the throttle, and carb.!!!

Gary [/i:7661163388][/b:7661163388]

Part # 9n-9827. Can you explain to me how the "governor cannot work correctly" without this spring?

I can't.

My '49 8N gov didn't have one.

But then it never worked correctly, over a copule of days at a time, no mater what I did, or how many times I replaced it with a rebuild.

That is the reason for my one wire, Chevy 10-SI, 6v, positive ground, alternator.

I'll give you a hit if you can explain to me what you were talking about?


Also, Id like to know what you think the spring is for.

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 22:26:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 17:40:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 21:16:03 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 12:13:22 10/18/09) [b:d337b17b03][i:d337b17b03]

Too bad about the bid on EBAY,....now you might get a spare bracket!! :lol:
BUT....You have to have that spring.!!! That is the Gov. compensation
spring. If it is not there...your governor cannot work correctly, with the throttle, and carb.!!!

Gary [/i:d337b17b03][/b:d337b17b03]

Part # 9n-9827. Can you explain to me how the "governor cannot work correctly" without this spring?

I can't.

My '49 8N gov didn't have one.

But then it never worked correctly, over a copule of days at a time, no mater what I did, or how many times I replaced it with a rebuild.

That is the reason for my one wire, Chevy 10-SI, 6v, positive ground, alternator.

I'll give you a hit if you can explain to me what you were talking about?


Also, Id like to know what you think the spring is for.

I wish I had a spring, or an artiesian well, so I wouldn't have to pump it from 130' in the ground,

But i figger it is good water, and not comtaminated.

Have you met John..PA?

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 18:31:44 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 22:26:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 17:40:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 21:16:03 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 12:13:22 10/18/09) [b:3ce7471b00][i:3ce7471b00]

Too bad about the bid on EBAY,....now you might get a spare bracket!! :lol:
BUT....You have to have that spring.!!! That is the Gov. compensation
spring. If it is not there...your governor cannot work correctly, with the throttle, and carb.!!!

Gary [/i:3ce7471b00][/b:3ce7471b00]

Part # 9n-9827. Can you explain to me how the "governor cannot work correctly" without this spring?

I can't.

My '49 8N gov didn't have one.

But then it never worked correctly, over a copule of days at a time, no mater what I did, or how many times I replaced it with a rebuild.

That is the reason for my one wire, Chevy 10-SI, 6v, positive ground, alternator.

I'll give you a hit if you can explain to me what you were talking about?


Also, Id like to know what you think the spring is for.

I wish I had a spring, or an artiesian well, so I wouldn't have to pump it from 130' in the ground,

But i figger it is good water, and not comtaminated.

Have you met John..PA?

Exactly the answer i figured i would get from you. If you dont know the answer, you make some stupid joke.

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 22:36:42 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 18:31:44 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 22:26:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 17:40:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 21:16:03 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 12:13:22 10/18/09) [b:1642627002][i:1642627002]

Too bad about the bid on EBAY,....now you might get a spare bracket!! :lol:
BUT....You have to have that spring.!!! That is the Gov. compensation
spring. If it is not there...your governor cannot work correctly, with the throttle, and carb.!!!

Gary [/i:1642627002][/b:1642627002]

Part # 9n-9827. Can you explain to me how the "governor cannot work correctly" without this spring?

I can't.

My '49 8N gov didn't have one.

But then it never worked correctly, over a copule of days at a time, no mater what I did, or how many times I replaced it with a rebuild.

That is the reason for my one wire, Chevy 10-SI, 6v, positive ground, alternator.

I'll give you a hit if you can explain to me what you were talking about?


Also, Id like to know what you think the spring is for.

I wish I had a spring, or an artiesian well, so I wouldn't have to pump it from 130' in the ground,

But i figger it is good water, and not comtaminated.

Have you met John..PA?

Exactly the answer i figured i would get from you. If you dont know the answer, you make some stupid joke.

YOU are the STUPID one, ifn you don't get my jokes!!!! (Are you blonde?)

Or at least don't spend enough time on this forum.

One to one, I have forgoten much more, about many thousands of things, than you will ever know exists, and I don't toot my horn often, just when I meet idiots that think they are superior. And ain't!!

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 18:42:41 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 22:36:42 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 18:31:44 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 22:26:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 17:40:27 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 21:16:03 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 12:13:22 10/18/09) [b:cc902a444d][i:cc902a444d]

Too bad about the bid on EBAY,....now you might get a spare bracket!! :lol:
BUT....You have to have that spring.!!! That is the Gov. compensation
spring. If it is not there...your governor cannot work correctly, with the throttle, and carb.!!!

Gary [/i:cc902a444d][/b:cc902a444d]

Part # 9n-9827. Can you explain to me how the "governor cannot work correctly" without this spring?

I can't.

My '49 8N gov didn't have one.

But then it never worked correctly, over a copule of days at a time, no mater what I did, or how many times I replaced it with a rebuild.

That is the reason for my one wire, Chevy 10-SI, 6v, positive ground, alternator.

I'll give you a hit if you can explain to me what you were talking about?


Also, Id like to know what you think the spring is for.

I wish I had a spring, or an artiesian well, so I wouldn't have to pump it from 130' in the ground,

But i figger it is good water, and not comtaminated.

Have you met John..PA?

Exactly the answer i figured i would get from you. If you dont know the answer, you make some stupid joke.

YOU are the STUPID one, ifn you don't get my jokes!!!! (Are you blonde?)

Or at least don't spend enough time on this forum.

One to one, I have forgoten much more, about many thousands of things, than you will ever know exists, and I don't toot my horn often, just when I meet idiots that think they are superior. And ain't!!

I get your jokes. I just think their stupid. ALL i want to know is what you think the intended purpose of part #9n-9827 is. You had a smart remark (as usual) to what i thought its purpose was.

 

[Hobo,NC]

(quoted from post at 02:10:21 10/19/09)

(quoted from post at 17:04:22 10/18/09)
I can not see how it affects the governor at all,,, is it not part of the manual throttle linkage,,, if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do,,, I have seen'em missing on 8n and 2n and when replaced you can not tell the difference,,, if your throttle plate and throttle are working as it should the throttle will stay put,,, I am open if someone wants to explain the purpose of the spring

The only reasonable explanation for this spring that i can think of is ......when you have the tractor half to full throttle the governor (when worked) can infact move the throttle lever [b:0549bcc1fb]IF[/b:0549bcc1fb] the plate is worn and/or the tension spring on the lever is weak or broke.
If you look at how the bracket and spring are designed , you will notice how the first half of the throttle movement the spring will pull the throttle lever towards the idle position. About half throttle to full throttle the spring will pull the throttle lever towards full throttle position thus keeping tension against the working governor. Thats how i see it. I could be wrong.

Back to what i said "if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do",,, I do understand what you said,,, my problem is,,, You bring yer tractor to my shop,,, I say O lord you miss'n a sprang,,, gotta affect the governor,,, customer says it werks OK,,, you replace the sprang anyways,,, makes no difference it works with it are with out it long as the throttle plate is good.

I am not one to repeat sum'n just cuzz I read it,,, well I got a 2N to mess with and it works with out it,,, I got a new sprang also,,, spec i will have to play to find out

 

[G.Bott]

On the upside of things. I completed the front mount conversion to 12v like on your website and have strong blue spark. It was a different experience guttin it out. Thanks for the resources of your detailed website. But the only thing I can think of.that spring for is to keep play out of the system but you control it with the lever and it moves solid so I don"t know.
G.Bott

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 23:02:50 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 02:10:21 10/19/09)

(quoted from post at 17:04:22 10/18/09)
I can not see how it affects the governor at all,,, is it not part of the manual throttle linkage,,, if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do,,, I have seen'em missing on 8n and 2n and when replaced you can not tell the difference,,, if your throttle plate and throttle are working as it should the throttle will stay put,,, I am open if someone wants to explain the purpose of the spring

The only reasonable explanation for this spring that i can think of is ......when you have the tractor half to full throttle the governor (when worked) can infact move the throttle lever [b:bf75998c06]IF[/b:bf75998c06] the plate is worn and/or the tension spring on the lever is weak or broke.
If you look at how the bracket and spring are designed , you will notice how the first half of the throttle movement the spring will pull the throttle lever towards the idle position. About half throttle to full throttle the spring will pull the throttle lever towards full throttle position thus keeping tension against the working governor. Thats how i see it. I could be wrong.

Back to what i said "if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do",,, I do understand what you said,,, my problem is,,, You bring yer tractor to my shop,,, I say O lord you miss'n a sprang,,, gotta affect the governor,,, customer says it werks OK,,, you replace the sprang anyways,,, makes no difference it works with it are with out it long as the throttle plate is good.

I am not one to repeat sum'n just cuzz I read it,,, well I got a 2N to mess with and it works with out it,,, I got a new sprang also,,, spec i will have to play to find out

Hobo...

This IDIOT!!!

JjEjFjF

Keeps PROVING himself as a TROLL!!!

Troll (Internet)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)


He doesn't want to discuss the merits, he wants to attack, and provoke folks.

He is provoking me.

I betcha, I can get that fixed, or fix it myself.

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 19:02:50 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 02:10:21 10/19/09)

(quoted from post at 17:04:22 10/18/09)
I can not see how it affects the governor at all,,, is it not part of the manual throttle linkage,,, if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do,,, I have seen'em missing on 8n and 2n and when replaced you can not tell the difference,,, if your throttle plate and throttle are working as it should the throttle will stay put,,, I am open if someone wants to explain the purpose of the spring

The only reasonable explanation for this spring that i can think of is ......when you have the tractor half to full throttle the governor (when worked) can infact move the throttle lever [b:cf6193ffe0]IF[/b:cf6193ffe0] the plate is worn and/or the tension spring on the lever is weak or broke.
If you look at how the bracket and spring are designed , you will notice how the first half of the throttle movement the spring will pull the throttle lever towards the idle position. About half throttle to full throttle the spring will pull the throttle lever towards full throttle position thus keeping tension against the working governor. Thats how i see it. I could be wrong.

Back to what i said "if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do",,, I do understand what you said,,, my problem is,,, You bring yer tractor to my shop,,, I say O lord you miss'n a sprang,,, gotta affect the governor,,, customer says it werks OK,,, you replace the sprang anyways,,, makes no difference it works with it are with out it long as the throttle plate is good.

I am not one to repeat sum'n just cuzz I read it,,, well I got a 2N to mess with and it works with out it,,, I got a new sprang also,,, spec i will have to play to find out

I agree with you as well. My brothers tractor has no spring and it works just fine without it. What i said about the purpose of the spring is merely my thoughts and thats all.
I was also waiting to hear how that spring supposedly effects the governor.

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 19:14:55 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 23:02:50 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 02:10:21 10/19/09)

(quoted from post at 17:04:22 10/18/09)
I can not see how it affects the governor at all,,, is it not part of the manual throttle linkage,,, if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do,,, I have seen'em missing on 8n and 2n and when replaced you can not tell the difference,,, if your throttle plate and throttle are working as it should the throttle will stay put,,, I am open if someone wants to explain the purpose of the spring

The only reasonable explanation for this spring that i can think of is ......when you have the tractor half to full throttle the governor (when worked) can infact move the throttle lever [b:def567d3c6]IF[/b:def567d3c6] the plate is worn and/or the tension spring on the lever is weak or broke.
If you look at how the bracket and spring are designed , you will notice how the first half of the throttle movement the spring will pull the throttle lever towards the idle position. About half throttle to full throttle the spring will pull the throttle lever towards full throttle position thus keeping tension against the working governor. Thats how i see it. I could be wrong.

Back to what i said "if the throttle stays were you put it then what does the spring do",,, I do understand what you said,,, my problem is,,, You bring yer tractor to my shop,,, I say O lord you miss'n a sprang,,, gotta affect the governor,,, customer says it werks OK,,, you replace the sprang anyways,,, makes no difference it works with it are with out it long as the throttle plate is good.

I am not one to repeat sum'n just cuzz I read it,,, well I got a 2N to mess with and it works with out it,,, I got a new sprang also,,, spec i will have to play to find out

Hobo...

This IDIOT!!!

JjEjFjF

Keeps PROVING himself as a TROLL!!!

Troll (Internet)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)


He doesn't want to discuss the merits, he wants to attack, and provoke folks.

He is provoking me.

I betcha, I can get that fixed, or fix it myself.

All that anyone has to do is read our conversations to see whos at fault. I NEVER "attack" unless provoked. If you dont like what i ask or say , please....PLEASE....[u:def567d3c6]PLEASE[/u:def567d3c6]..........[b:def567d3c6]PLEASE[/b:def567d3c6] ....Dont say anything.

 

[Hobo,NC]

I spec you can handle it

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 23:32:09 10/18/09)
I spec you can handle it

And you are RIGHT once again.

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 19:11:09 10/18/09) On the upside of things. I completed the front mount conversion to 12v like on your website and have strong blue spark. It was a different experience guttin it out. Thanks for the resources of your detailed website. But the only thing I can think of.that spring for is to keep play out of the system but you control it with the lever and it moves solid so I don"t know.
G.Bott

Its a mystery spring.

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 23:41:59 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 19:11:09 10/18/09) On the upside of things. I completed the front mount conversion to 12v like on your website and have strong blue spark. It was a different experience guttin it out. Thanks for the resources of your detailed website. But the only thing I can think of.that spring for is to keep play out of the system but you control it with the lever and it moves solid so I don"t know.
G.Bott

Its a mystery spring.

JjEjFjF, so far, you have proven that your presence here is worthless.

Why do you keep posting?

 

[JjEjFjF]

(quoted from post at 19:49:18 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 23:41:59 10/18/09)

(quoted from post at 19:11:09 10/18/09) On the upside of things. I completed the front mount conversion to 12v like on your website and have strong blue spark. It was a different experience guttin it out. Thanks for the resources of your detailed website. But the only thing I can think of.that spring for is to keep play out of the system but you control it with the lever and it moves solid so I don"t know.
G.Bott

Its a mystery spring.

JjEjFjF, so far, you have proven that your presence here is worthless.

Why do you keep posting?

I asked you to Please not do this.