Tisco Points set

[Steve46]

Just received my point set bought from the store here. The brand is Tisco. What I thought I ordered was a blue streak set. Are they the same? Sort of recall that Tisco points set are the cheaper set but the set cost $$

 

[Bruce (VA)]

" Are they the same?"

I don't think so, but you best ask YT.

TISCO points carry a TISCO number. Re below, Blue Streak should have a Blue Streak number.

9N12107

Replaces:


21A151 FORD

87744524 FORD

Crossed From:

A0NN12107ABS TISCO

A0NN12107AP TISCO


Sparex - SPA-67157

NAPA CS35

Blue Streak FD-6769X
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[Steve46]

Thanks I'll be calling YT. A0NN12107ABS is the part number.

 

[Welding man]

Funny how things change. Years ago there was one little independent auto parts store in our town, but he carried 2 or 3 of the leading brands of most things. Blue Streak being one of them. None of the old time mechanics would buy them,said they were junk. They bought Motorcraft or AC or anything but Blue Streak. Now they are the best?Seems to me we don't have much to pick from any more.

 

[Bruce (VA)]

FWIW......Standard Ignition sells Bluestreak Points now; I guess that bought them out. Anyway, just Google the part number FD-6769x. They show up on Amazon for $9. As well as other places.
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[Dean]

Bluestreak has long been a Std. Ign. trademark, at least since the mid 1960s, and probably since registration.

Dean

 

[Dean]

No.

Bluestreak is the trademark for the premium line of ignition parts sold by Std. Ign.

TISCO markets inexpensive, Mexican made (unless supplier change within the last couple of years) components.

Dean

 

[Steve46]

Well It may be buyer be ware... If you look at the parts pages for a 2N the part number advertised for Blue Streak points is A0NN12107ABS

Copied from the parts page:
Distributor Point Set
Distributor Point Set - Point set, Blue Streak premium quality. For models 8N, 9N, 2N (Early). (Part No: A0NN12107ABS at $27.84

Ignition Kit
Ignition Kit - Ignition kit, less rotor. Contains points, gauge, and condenser for Front Mount Distributor. For 8N, 9N, 2N (Part No: ATK6FF) at $11.48


This is what I bought;
Ignition Kit With Rotor, Front Mount Distributor - Premium quality Blue Streak points (A0NN12107ABS), rotor, condenser, and gauge For 2N, Early 8N, 9N. (Part No: APN12000ABSR)


There's not a emoticon for this...

 

[steve 43]

The Tisco set I had said "MADE IN TIAWAN"

 

[Steve46]

Here's what the guy said at YT. Tisco re-packages the bluestreak point set in their set. How can you tell the difference?

 

[HCooke]

That was my experience about 3-4 months ago.

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 16:51:38 12/20/13) Here's what the guy said at YT. Tisco re-packages the bluestreak point set in their set. How can you tell the difference?

If they have a plastic rubbing block, they are not the premium set.
The BlueStreak part number as Bruce said is FD-6769x.
The same part number without the "x" is still Standard Ignition and
comes in a box that says BlueStreak, but they're not the premium set.
The premium sets are also ventilated.
At least that's the way they come from my local parts store.

 

[Texas!]

The company that manufactures Blue Streak ignition parts is "Standard Motor Products Inc." Blue Streak is their best quality line and I believe they also sell a lesser quality line for those who don't want to pay for a premium product.

Standard Motor Products Inc. History

 

[Dean]

Among other differences, the Blue Streak set has a phonelic rubbing block, a copper ribbon conductor aside the steel spring and ventilated contacts (or at least it once did.)

The diffenences are striking, hence the premium price.

Dean

 

[Hobo,NC]

(quoted from post at 22:53:04 12/20/13) Just received my point set bought from the store here. The brand is Tisco. What I thought I ordered was a blue streak set. Are they the same? Sort of recall that Tisco points set are the cheaper set but the set cost $$

Tisco offers both a conventional/counterfeit set and a BS set... The conventional/counterfeit style works fairly well in every thing but a P.O.S. front mount... If I had a FM and skeered of EI I would buy a pocket full of BS points because I spec someday BS points will become extinct and Y'all that hang on to a points FM will be stuck with counterfeit...

A conventional set now days is a counterfeit of a quality set of the past... For the most part a counterfeit set performed along with a quality set in most applications except a FM...

Most of you never knew what a quality set of points were till you got your hands on a FM because if you did have the opportunity to install a set of points you would never have known the difference. I would have not if I were not playing a wanna be mechanic in the early 70's when counterfeits came about...

 

[kylemorley]

This thread reminded me I needed some points so I went to
Rockauto to see what they had. Which was the Standard 6769X
for a tad under $10. They also had a few sets of what were
described as the same thing, only in private labeling packaging
for $5. The picture showed them with the good phenolic block so I
grabbed them, will be interesting to see what i get.

Interestingly enough, the description for both list them as non-
ventilated even though they are also described as being the premium 6969X
set.

I have been using Rockauto a lot for small stuff lately since
they'll ship small items First Class, which can save a lot
Oh, I recall hearing a while back that Echlin, which makes the
good stuff for NAPA, is owned by Standard. Whether this means
the NAPA and Echlin points are the same as the Standards is
anyones guess.

 

[Bob]

Welding, you wrote: "Funny how things change. Years ago there was one little independent auto parts store in our town, but he carried 2 or 3 of the leading brands of most things. Blue Streak being one of them. None of the old time mechanics would buy them,said they were junk. They bought Motorcraft or AC or anything but Blue Streak. Now they are the best? Seems to me we don't have much to pick from any more."

That's an INTERESTING perspective... I just turned 56 today, cut my teeth on this stuff, and never had a complaint/problem with Standard/Blue Streak points.

A local auto parts store has sold them for a LONG time, and I've never heard of anyone else complaining, either. My son works there and I just asked him, and he said they still sell quite a few, and he can't remember any complaints, either. (He's worked there on and off, for 10 years.

 

[Dean]

NAPA bought Echlin decades ago (1960s?).

Not sure who owns Std. Ign. these days but it is highly unlikely that they are still independent.

In years past, both Std. Ign, Blue Streak and Echlin premium line were very good sets but they were NOT identical. Who knows, these days.

Dean

 

[L.B,]

Well put them in and see how they work, yt is a money back deal on parts but I don't know if electrical parts are or not. I have to say I don't think they are Blue Streaks, I could be wrong but parts guys have been known to make mistakes maybe hes new?

 

[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 16:01:59 12/20/13) Bluestreak has long been a Std. Ign. trademark, at least since the mid 1960s, and probably since registration.

Dean

Google is your friend:

Standard Motor Company was founded in 1919 and manufactureres engine management parts under a variety of product nmaes including their own.

In 1950 SMP established Blue Streak Automotive as a Canadian subsidiary that manufactures and markets their products in Canada under the Blue Streak/HyGrade name.

SMP added Borg Warner and Niefoff to their product line with the acquisition of BWD Automotive in 2003.

Other engine management product brand names include Intermotor, OEM, LockSmart, TechSmart, and GP Sorensen

Their Temperature Control Division product brand names include Everco. FactoryAir, ACI, Imperial, FourSeasons, CompressorWorks, TorqueFlo, and Hayden.

They also manufacture products sold under various private label brand names.

In other words they make just about everything ;-)

TOH

 

[Texas!]

Dean,
According to the link I posted SMP is an independent, NYSE listed company. Also according to that link SMP became a supplier to NAPA Echlin in the 2000's.
Alan
Standard Motor Products Inc.

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 00:42:30 12/21/13) Welding, you wrote: "Funny how things change. Years ago there was one little independent auto parts store in our town, but he carried 2 or 3 of the leading brands of most things. Blue Streak being one of them. None of the old time mechanics would buy them,said they were junk. They bought Motorcraft or AC or anything but Blue Streak. Now they are the best? Seems to me we don't have much to pick from any more."

That's an INTERESTING perspective... I just turned 56 today, cut my teeth on this stuff, and never had a complaint/problem with Standard/Blue Streak points.

A local auto parts store has sold them for a LONG time, and I've never heard of anyone else complaining, either. My son works there and I just asked him, and he said they still sell quite a few, and he can't remember any complaints, either. (He's worked there on and off, for 10 years.

Happy (belated) Birthday Bob!

 

[kylemorley]

Odder and odder. If I do a search for 6769X I get a bunch of
listings for Standard premium point set, for $9 to $45, usually
described as non-pierced.

If I do a search for A0NN12107ABS I get a bunch of listings for
Standard points, and a lot for Tisco,. Most of the Tisco points,
are also described as being Standard or Blue Streaks.

Either Tisco really is (or once was) selling Standard, or lot of vendors
don't have a clue what they are selling. I suspect the latter -buyer beware!

 

[arnold z]

Truth is,no matter whose name is on the box or package, unless you see it made, you never know. I worked in 2 factories for the same company over half my life. MANY times on the job order, the customer was a competitor. On the job orders, it was mentioned and higlighted more than once, that absolutely no mention of XXX Inc. to be made on any paperwork, cartons, labels, or packaging.

 

[NOXJohn]

This is why I put an electronic ignition module in
my 1949 front mount. Good front mount points are
getting difficult to find and as you can tell you
don't know what you will get until they arrive.
You also don't know how long they will last until
you put them in. Many times over the past years I
got 1/2 finished mowing the lawn or some other job
when the points closed up and the tractor quit.
The worst is when you are pushing snow. That
really pi$$es me off. I don't care if it cost a
lot more for EI. I want it to do work not get 1/2
done and need fixing. Ten years ago I could buy
good points at any Ag store. Now I don't who
carries which brand and if it will change next
week.

 

[ejensen]

NoxJohn,

What did you use for a resistor for your electronic ignition kit? Did you use the pertronix 1247?

 

[ejensen]

Hobo N.C.,
The pertronix EI recently failed in my 2N. Haven't totally figured out the reason so replaced with NAPA points. I don't remember the brand but points and condenser were $35.00 . Good spring plus a brass strip on the point tensioning spring and the rubbing block is fiber. Good points are difficult to find.

 

[Steve46]

(reply to post at 17:51:38 12/20/13)

Update; The points just didn't work. Rubbing block couldn't make contact with the cam so they are being returned. The part guy said I bought the point set for an early 2n and since I have a later model '46 I needed the other set... So in any case they are being returned. I have what I hope to be the premium BS point set on order. In the meantime I kludged together a set which needed some dremel work in order to fit and gap properly. Also managed to set timing (which was the topic of another thread I started on distributor parts) without it being all the way advanced. Installed it and it..... no spark. I dis-installed and checked everything and all checked out so had to be something else. Ran thru all the wiring, fuel. all good. Did a check of the OEM ballast resister and secondary resister and those checked out too. Although I am a novice at using the MM and I still can't get good readings, after much thought javascript:emoticon(':x') I swapped out the OEM resister (because I had an extra) and it started right up. A few adjustments on the idle and main jets and its running real good. Ran for over an hour, took it for a spin and no issues. The power was slightly off so may need some additional adjustments. I'll check again tonight but all i n all I'm real happy.