Trailer axle question

[BarnyardEngineering]

I ran both truck and trailer on scale with truck full of fuel then just trailer 2 axles on scale and then just truck by itself subtracted truck weight off to figure out how much trailer weighed and then done the same except for truck by itself loaded to figure out how much weight was on trailer and how much was on truck don’t really have a way to do each axle individually but everything’s gone good the last 2 days
Now just got to get the idiots at the sale barn to not try and run everything up in trailer and shut the doors

If your trailer axles were at or under 14,000 combined, and the trailer is sitting nearly level, you're okay. About the only way you could possibly be overloading an axle in that situation is if you have a slab of lead sitting directly above one axle. A distributed load like cattle or just about anything will spread evenly across both axles.

The axles are not going to turn into horseshoes at 7001lbs...

 

[buickanddeere]

I got a 24ft livestock trailer with 2 7k axles that I’m pulling with a f450 ford is the axle capacity setup that the axles can withstand just 14k in the trailer+ contents or if you shift part the weight onto the truck say 2k on the truck and 14 on the trailer will it mess up your axles?

A pair of 7000lb axles should only be loaded to 10,000lbs . If you want a long service life .

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

A pair of 7000lb axles should only be loaded to 10,000lbs . If you want a long service life .

That holds true for anything when you run it at 72% of capacity... Things last a lot longer, but you aren't making any money hauling less than 3/4 of a load...

 

[Joe ellis]

A pair of 7000lb axles should only be loaded to 10,000lbs . If you want a long service life .

ain’t worth hauling it around if I can only put 5500-6k in it if I can get 2-3 good years outta it and axles are still good I’ll sell it to someone and buy a new one while it still looks brand new

 

[rustred]

i would be more concerned about the tires holding out than bending axles. u can haul 10 k on there . such as a 660 ih without fluid,which i have hauled before.

 

[Joe ellis]

i would be more concerned about the tires holding out than bending axles. u can haul 10 k on there . such as a 660 ih without fluid,which i have hauled before.

Tires are rated for 4890 a piece so I ain’t to worried about them.last few days I’ve hauled 16-18k on it and it’s handled it fine so far no bent axle

 

[buickanddeere]

Tires are rated for 4890 a piece so I ain’t to worried about them.last few days I’ve hauled 16-18k on it and it’s handled it fine so far no bent axle

Never seen the point of overloading equipment

 

[Joe ellis]

Never seen the point of overloading equipment

Well 2 7k axles so rated for 14k most I’ve had on the 2 trailer axles is 13,260 rest is on the truck but when it’s your way of making money what’s making you more money hauling half a trailer load or a full trailer load? I got the electric over hydraulic disc brakes so plenty of stopping power

 

[rustred]

so you answered your own question.

 

[Joe ellis]

so you answered your own question.

I asked my question cause that’s how I thought it worked but didn’t 100% know but I’ve tried it and everything’s worked good so far

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Never seen the point of overloading equipment

It's not overloading if it's at or under the advertised capacity.

 

[buickanddeere]

It's not overloading if it's at or under the advertised capacity.

It the manufacture states 5000lbs capacity . That is upper ragged edge . Damage and/or reduced service life occurs .
A manufacture is not going to manufacture a 7000lb axle and rate it at 5000lbs .

 

[Joe ellis]

It the manufacture states 5000lbs capacity . That is upper ragged edge . Damage and/or reduced service life occurs .
A manufacture is not going to manufacture a 7000lb axle and rate it at 5000lbs .

I don’t see it that way because why would they sell a axle that 7k lbs will damage it and rate it to carry 7k lbs safely and then torsions have a overload capacity aswell because they don’t load share with other axles. But no point in hauling around a trailer if I can only put 6klbs worth of cattle but I’m only putting between 5-6500 on each axle rest is on the truck.

 

[john in la]

We regularly load 24 to 25k (of freight) on a trailer that only has one 20k axle and go right across the scales with it and don't have any problems because the truck axle carries a lot of the weight. If you move the hitch point forward you can even get the steer axle to haul some of the weight.

 

[cjunrau]

I don’t see it that way because why would they sell a axle that 7k lbs will damage it and rate it to carry 7k lbs safely and then torsions have a overload capacity aswell because they don’t load share with other axles. But no point in hauling around a trailer if I can only put 6klbs worth of cattle but I’m only putting between 5-6500 on each axle rest is on the truck.

That is like a chain Safe working load and breaking is WAY different a5000 lb working load chain wont break at 5001, more like 10,000

 

[buickanddeere]

That is like a chain Safe working load and breaking is WAY different a5000 lb working load chain wont break at 5001, more like 10,000

As previously stated , the tires will probably fail prior to the axle when over loaded .

 

[m16ty]

Theoretically, with 2 7k axles you could have 14k on the trailer axles plus another whatever the truck can hold. Trailers aren’t rated that way though, if a trailer has 2 7k axles it will have a GVW of 14k. That 14k figure also includes the weight of the trailer, typically a 14k rated trailer can haul around 10k lbs.

All that being said, I have way surpassed the trailer rated load in times passed, but I wouldn’t recommend it. I’ve also seen plenty of trailers with bent axles, frames, tongues, and necks.

 

[Joe ellis]

Theoretically, with 2 7k axles you could have 14k on the trailer axles plus another whatever the truck can hold. Trailers aren’t rated that way though, if a trailer has 2 7k axles it will have a GVW of 14k. That 14k figure also includes the weight of the trailer, typically a 14k rated trailer can haul around 10k lbs.

All that being said, I have way surpassed the trailer rated load in times passed, but I wouldn’t recommend it. I’ve also seen plenty of trailers with bent axles, frames, tongues, and necks.

Well I’ve been dragging it around all week but Sunday with 11-13k on the trailer axles and 5-7 on the truck and no issues so far it’s a pretty heavy duty trailer we’ll see what happens