Trip Loader Question

[Bergmann]

I purchased a mid-50's AC D14 with a trip loader on it. I can engage the pin and pull the lever to release the cable and pin. The problem is, when I release the pin, it stays in position and the bucket falls back toward the tractor, even when loaded. The spring looks to be in good shape. I can manually tip the bucket in the dump position and put it back in place. I plan to make note of the loader model and make soon. My question is, does anyone have any thoughts on how to get the trip loader to dump the right direction when the lever is pulled? Should the pin, which appears to be spring loaded near the bucket, go back into place automatically? I'm not real familiar with trip loader buckets, but would like to get this one going for scooping cow manure. I am also working fabricating tines for the bucket right now to better scoop the straw/manure mixture I currently have going on by my barn.

 

[Jim.ME]

A trip bucket works on balance and gravity. If it tips back towards the tractor when tripped, the back (tractor) side of the bucket is too heavy. Many had a long front nose and tines which kept the heavy side (loaded and unloaded) forward. If the nose of the bucket was trimmed off, as well as the tines being removed, that might be your problem. You have posts enough on record that the site will allow you to post pictures. Post some pictures of it and someone may spot somethings that could help. Make sure you have some that show the whole bucket area, not just all close-ups of bit of it.

 

[Bergmann]

(quoted from post at 16:57:08 02/08/22)
A trip bucket works on balance and gravity. If it tips back towards the tractor when tripped, the back (tractor) side of the bucket is too heavy. Many had a long front nose and tines which kept the heavy side (loaded and unloaded) forward. If the nose of the bucket was trimmed off, as well as the tines being removed, that might be your problem. You have posts enough on record that the site will allow you to post pictures. Post some pictures of it and someone may spot somethings that could help. Make sure you have some that show the whole bucket area, not just all close-ups of bit of it.

Hi Jim, Thanks for the response. These pictures aren't the best, but hopefully you'll be able to see enough of what i have going on. I do think you are right - more weight in the front could work. With how hard it currently is to pull the pin back to allow the bucket to swing and then push the pin back in, I have a friction issue I need to address as well. Thanks again.

 

[Bergmann]

I should have noted, the bucket tilted backwards when the pin is pulled even with the strut on the side. I added the strut so the operator could use it as a handle to dump the bucket. I have since removed the orange strap.

 

[Jim.ME]

(quoted from post at 11:43:10 02/09/22)
I should have noted, the bucket tilted backwards when the pin is pulled even with the strut on the side. I added the strut so the operator could use it as a handle to dump the bucket. I have since removed the orange strap.

Bucket is too heavy on the rear. Pin and all its linkage should move easily. It should release easily when the lever is pulled, and the spring should latch the pin in when the bucket returns after dumping.

 

[JoeM(GA)]

That looks like at one time it was a manure bucket and would have had tines 16-24 out the front, that would have put more weight out front away from
the hinge and it would have dumped, this is my dirt bucket on my G, see how far the bucket is in front of the hinge placement. I have a manure bucket
that the rear part is shaped like yours, but with the tines it dumps well, its not here at the house or Id get you a better picture. Heres a copy of off a
brochure I have, looks a lot like yours

 

[Bergmann]

(quoted from post at 15:50:34 02/09/22) That looks like at one time it was a manure bucket and would have had tines 16-24 out the front, that would have put more weight out front away from
the hinge and it would have dumped, this is my dirt bucket on my G, see how far the bucket is in front of the hinge placement. I have a manure bucket
that the rear part is shaped like yours, but with the tines it dumps well, its not here at the house or Id get you a better picture. Heres a copy of off a
brochure I have, looks a lot like yours


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Joe M, Thank you very much for sharing. This is very helpful. You have a great looking tractor and I see the similarities in the loader type. That brochure is great too. I suspect you are correct. Upon looking a bit closer at the bucket, I found (3) sets of (2) holes that a bolt would go through to support a tine. I plan to add tines to the bucket now and will likely need to take the pin attachment apart, as there is a lot of friction still, after multiple applications of WD-40 and grease. Thanks again.