Two piece tractor rims

[CaseandMoline]

I have a 1945 Case DI which recently blew a rear tire. The tractor has 10-24 tires with a split lock ring rim similar to an old truck. I've done tractor tires before but not one of this style. I'm wondering if there are any different tricks to this kind of rim and if I should take the same precautions as when you deal with two piece truck wheels?

 

[moresmoke]

Hard to give advice without seeing it, but 10-24 is a truck tire size and given that is most likely an industrial tractor, I would say the rims are very much like a truck.

 

[paul]

If the ring is out on a ridge I would say pretty much the same as. Treat with care as with anything but should be fine.

If it would be the type that turns apart in the middle of the rim those are the dangerous type, be very very careful with those.

 

[CaseandMoline]

This is the same size and style.

 

[chico1]

I would never touch a split rim. There is a reason they are no longer used. During inflation if the split rim isn't seated right they can explode sending the rim flying at mach speeds! A good friend lost her father to an exploding split rim. Most tire places either won't do them or put it in a special cage. The old farmer way was to wrap a chain on them in a figure 8 but it is still very dangerous.

 

[Blue Jay]

I would never touch a split rim. There is a reason they are no longer used. During inflation if the split rim isn't seated right they can explode sending the rim flying at mach speeds! A good friend lost her father to an exploding split rim. Most tire places either won't do them or put it in a special cage. The old farmer way was to wrap a chain on them in a figure 8 but it is still very dangerous.

That is a "Split Ring" not a "Split Rim"

 

[Fixingfarmer]

That appears to be the bolt together kind that’s more common today on larger mining equipment but I’m not entirely certain it appears the bolts are headed in the wrong direction to me. It’s safe deflated I’d give it a go taking it apart and if you can figure it out it should be fine there were large wheel loaders that still had that kind of rim

On the plus side the tire comes off much easier

It’s a low pressure tire but still I’ve gone to putting it outside and shutting the shop door and running the regulator from inside since you can check it there at the gauge there isn’t any reason for me to be standing next to a truck tire on any rim if it goes

 

[marloweg]

at 74 i have change well over 100 of them make sure everything is clean NO RUST around ring and take it slow airing it up make sure the ring is seated like anything use your head

 

[Jim.ME]

That appears to be the bolt together kind that’s more common today on larger mining equipment but I’m not entirely certain it appears the bolts are headed in the wrong direction to me. It’s safe deflated I’d give it a go taking it apart and if you can figure it out it should be fine there were large wheel loaders that still had that kind of rim

On the plus side the tire comes off much easier

It’s a low pressure tire but still I’ve gone to putting it outside and shutting the shop door and running the regulator from inside since you can check it there at the gauge there isn’t any reason for me to be standing next to a truck tire on any rim if it goes

His second picture shows it has a locking ring. It is held to the hub by clamps from what I see.

It should be inflated in a cage. Lacking a cage, I put a couple chains around the rim and tire to contain the pieces if the ring fails. It is best to use a lock on hose end and control the air supply back away from the rim/tire.

 

[Fixingfarmer]

His second picture shows it has a locking ring. It is held to the hub by clamps from what I see.

It should be inflated in a cage. Lacking a cage, I put a couple chains around the rim and tire to contain the pieces if the ring fails. It is best to use a lock on hose end and control the air supply back away from the rim/tire.

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Thank you Jim from your zoomed in picture it appears 2 tabs inside not bolts so you are correct have to be careful but still more safely done than some

 

[504]

take it to a true tire shop,truck and heavy equipment tire shop. how much will a trip to the ER cost? Yes I can and have changed them,not anymore.

 

[showcrop]

As usual, when someone posts about a "split ring" wheel, he gets piled on as if he were posting about the extremely rare split rim. Other than both being round to support a tire, they are totally different, And split rims are very rarely found anymore.

 

[Keith True]

With those positioning nubs that may be a tubeless setup.If it is it will have a big O ring under the flange of that lock ring.I have those on my old loader with 14X24 road grader or backhoe tires.

 

[560Dennis]

Called widow makers , I’d if don’t have a cage , impossible to tell you have it assembled correctly . As Jim -me points out ,the cage
Suggest watching this video

 

[Jim.ME]

Called widow makers , I’d if don’t have a cage , impossible to tell you have it assembled correctly . As Jim -me points out ,the cage
Suggest watching this video

That is not the rim he has.

 

[moresmoke]

As others have said, the key is having the ring and the groove it sits in clean and rust free. The groove needs a decent edge to it to keep the ring contained. The inside edge of the lock ring most likely has a flange that sits under the bead of the tire.

If the tire is worked on without removing the rim from the tractor, try to position the tractor next to something that will contain any flying parts should things go sideways on reassembly. Clip on hose and a valve to control the air from a safe place is essential.

If you do remove the rim from the tractor, remember to tighten the clamps evenly when reinstalling so the tire runs true. You can spin the wheel while still jacked up and check for wobble.

 

[560Dennis]

As others have said, the key is having the ring and the groove it sits in clean and rust free. The groove needs a decent edge to it to keep the ring contained. The inside edge of the lock ring most likely has a flange that sits under the bead of the tire.

If the tire is worked on without removing the rim from the tractor, try to position the tractor next to something that will contain any flying parts should things go sideways on reassembly. Clip on hose and a valve to control the air from a safe place is essential.

If you do remove the rim from the tractor, remember to tighten the clamps evenly when reinstalling so the tire runs true. You can spin the wheel while still jacked up and check for wobble.

Very good points you make about these rims . Safety first .

 

[CaseandMoline]

The input is helpful. I've never had to work with a split lock ring wheel. Stand clear and make sure it's all clean.

 

[NDIHC]

Those aren't split rims. They are split flange. A split ring would be a 3 piece and have a solid flange with a split lock ring. These are 2 piece with a split flange. I don't get too worked up about those. The 2 piece split rim, where they separate in the middle of the wheel on the other hand, I won't work on anymore unless it's to let the air out, take apart and cut for scrap. I spent over 7 years in a tire shop and did a lot of multipiece rims. With experience you can tell which ones are ok to do and which ones to leave alone. Split flange rims or split lock ring/solid flange rims are generally pretty safe if you know what you're doing. I also don't care for the 2 piece solid flange rims. They don’t have much to catch on and they have to be distorted to remove/install. Another one I don't like is the solid outer flange with the rim that is split across the width through the flange on the opposite side of the rim. After the air is let out you collapse the rim in on itself and remove the solid flange. Another good candidate for scrap iron.

 

[Keith True]

I'd forgotten about those slitted rims.Only had hands on experience with them in the mid 70's.Guy with a campground bought an ex fire truck to build a small dump truck with.I dismounted his old tires and mounted new ones for him.Those wheels were absolutely perfect,so they came apart and snapped together like they were supposed to.I was always scared of those full circle rings with the little skinny flange to hold them,and two places carved out to get them over the edge of the rim.Like you said,they almost have to get distorted to get them on.I have had virtually no troubles with the single piece or the two piece lock rings.I won't touch the old real split rims.I sandblasted a bunch of them a few years ago for a guy restoring a truck.He had an older truck tire guy that would inspect and reassemble them,but he wanted them dropped to him sandblasted,NOT wire brushed.