Uberti 1860 Henry

MarkB_MI

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Most of you know that Henry Repeating Arms borrowed its name from the first commercially successful lever action rifle, the 1860 Henry. Benjamin Tyler Henry worked for Oliver Winchester, who owned the patent rights of the bankrupt Volcanic Repeating Arms Company. Henry was able to work the bugs out of the Volcanic rifle and develop the .44 rimfire cartridge used in his rifle and the later 1866 Winchester. Winchester named the new rifle after its inventor.

The Henry saw limited use in the Civil War, but were not as common as the other repeater of the day, the 1860 Spencer rifle. After the war, Winchester eliminated competion from Spencer by buying out the company. By that time, Winchester had developed a new rifle, the 1866 Winchester, which looks very much like a modern-day lever action rifle.

My Henry is a reasonably accurate replica made in Italy by Uberti. These rifles have been imported under a number of brands, including Cimarron, Stoeger and Cabelas. The .44 rimfire cartridge is long extinct; my rifle is chambered in .45 Colt. You'll also find them in .44-40.
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The Henry is very easy to load: You slide the magazine follower all the way to the muzzle, this unlocks the end of the magazine, which you open by twisting the end of the barrel about 45 degrees. After dropping cartridges into the magazine, you twist the end closed and it's ready to go. The picture below show the magazine in its open state.

The magazine design of the Henry (which I think was borrowed from the Volcanic) has a couple of problems: As you use up the cartridges, the follower slides toward the action and if you don't move your hand it will stop and can cause a jam. The other problem is there is no forend stock, so as you shoot the gun it quickly becomes too hot to hold without gloves. These problems prompted Winchester to use a rear-loading design on the 1866, introducing the loading port found on most lever action rifles since then.
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Thanks, Mark. I enjoyed reading that. I was finally able to buy a 30-30 lever-action a few years ago. After wanting a Winchester for so many years, though, I found a
good Marlin and bought it. I found a gun museum in Will Roger's hometown that had more lever-action Marlins in many different calibers from the late 1800's than I ever
realized were made.
Butch
 
I want one bad. Uberti or Henry. Have a single action Colt in 45C.
Want one to go with, just cant bring myself to spend 2k on a Henry
or 1400 on the Uberti. How far have you shot accurately? My colt is
decent. Likes some of my loads better than others like any gun. Some
they like, some they don't. I like that you didn't say 45LC, i get a
kick out of it when you say you shoot a 45 Colt and they ask if it
is a 1911. Say nope, made in 1902.
 
You may want to consider a Marlin 1893 in45? There were definitely some quirks in quality after the buy out but they seem to have that under control now. An added plus is they all now feature Ballard type rifling which is perfect for cast bullets. I have purchased Ilion NY produced 1894s in both 44 and 357 in the last 6 months and both are truly excellent rifles.
 
> I want one bad. Uberti or Henry. Have a single action Colt in 45C. Want one to go with, just cant bring myself to spend 2k on a Henry or 1400 on the Uberti. How far have you shot accurately?

I think I paid $800 for mine back around 2005. I haven't tried shooting mine on the range, just plinking in the back yard at ranges less than 50 yards; it's good enough for that. The factory sights aren't that great; I've thought about adding a tang-mounted peep sight which I think would work great but I can't bring myself to drill the receiver tang. The rear sight flips up and adjusts for long-range shooting, which is silly enough with 45 Colt but seems preposterous for the original 44 rimfire.
 
(quoted from post at 05:39:28 10/04/18) > I want one bad. Uberti or Henry. Have a single action Colt in 45C. Want one to go with, just cant bring myself to spend 2k on a Henry or 1400 on the Uberti. How far have you shot accurately?

I think I paid $800 for mine back around 2005. I haven't tried shooting mine on the range, just plinking in the back yard at ranges less than 50 yards; it's good enough for that. The factory sights aren't that great; I've thought about adding a tang-mounted peep sight which I think would work great but I can't bring myself to drill the receiver tang. The rear sight flips up and adjusts for long-range shooting, which is silly enough with 45 Colt but seems preposterous for the original 44 rimfire.

The buckhorn sights on my Rossi's are actually quite accurate IF I take the time to get everything lined up. I've not had an opportunity to test it at anything over about 80 yards though.
 
Yep, J.M. Davis museum in Claremore, OK. My town. Believe it or not all the stuff in that museum were the property of one local collector. He owned a hotel and had many of them displayed in the lobby. And a lot of the upstairs rooms where closed off and used to store many more. His will provided for the donation of the collection to the state with the provision that they would be free to the public.

He had hundreds of Lugers, drum magazines, artillery, naval configurations. Worth probably millions at today's prices. 1500s Chinese hand-held cannon, Gatling guns etc etc.
 
Another interesting thing to me were all the foreign-made three-barrel guns. Most had two shotgun barrels and a rifle barrel above them.
 
Actually Winchester never designed a gun of his own.Up to 1883 it was a Henry and Volcanic design. After 1883 it was the design of John
Browning.And even today it is a up graded version of John Browning's design.
 
(quoted from post at 08:11:34 10/05/18) Actually Winchester never designed a gun of his own.Up to 1883 it was a Henry and Volcanic design. After 1883 it was the design of John
Browning.And even today it is a up graded version of John Browning's design.

I believe you are correct. Oliver Winchester was in the shirt making industry and thought the Henry repeating rifle would be more lucrative.
 
Another observation I had: There were several military automatic rifles made in foreign countries and all were quite old. I didn't see a BAR, though.
Butch
 
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