unknown running gear

[richter12345]

I found an interesting running gear. Looks like a high clearance model, rear axle model/serial number 640-J-1, front framing serial number 5205-J-2-245472, front framing painted model# 882 in yellow stencil. Original paint color of framing is red. Has a hydraulic lift, with a decal that says Electric. I suspect the wooden box is custom made. Front axle is solid swing on pin/radius stabilizer bar (not tie rods). Both serial tags say Electric Wheel Co. Quincy, Illinois. I have absolutely no idea if this wagon is a Peru, Oliver, Cockshutt, or other branded model, I'd be very interested to learn what implement brand may be associated with this wagon as I plan to get it all fixed up nice. Any ideas? thanks!

This post was edited by richter12345 on 02/20/2023 at 10:24 am.

 

[richter12345]

 

[caterpillar guy]

It's an Electric brand running gear. they made several models and sizes and for other companies also. As for the hoist it could be anything. And the box could be both homemade or store bought.

 

[504]

Electric is Electric Wheel that turned into Titian Wheel after changing hands a few times. Titian International also owns Armstrong Tire and Goodyear ag and off road tires.

 

[matthies]

Light duty, seen one at an auction, and the old timers had nothing good to say about it. As the front axle got pulled off from the rest of the wagon. Going through ditches loaded with ear corn. And then rolling the wagon on steep hills and turning short.

 

[Leroy]

That type of front axle has no wipe-weave at higher road speeds. Made same as the old wood wagons and I had several of them converted with old car axles for rubber and bearings in the wheels. Never a problem with steering or turning too short and tipping the wagon. That type of steering is what is used on the fertilizer wagons because of the good roading speed.

 

[richter12345]

Thanks for advice about light duty, seller told me this wagon was put to work pulling ear corn for some years, not a bend or break on the framing, so kind of a miracle. I plan to use it for nothing much than hay rack rides and light duty hauling anyway.

 

[richter12345]

Interesting, that lines up with seller telling me it tracks really straight and easy pulling loads at moderate road speeds.

 

[Timmycornpicker]

Electric did catalog hoists for their running gears. Now did they make them, or did they slap their name on someone else's, I don't know.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

(quoted from post at 09:34:25 02/21/23) Thanks for advice about light duty, seller told me this wagon was put to work pulling ear corn for some years, not a bend or break on the framing, so kind of a miracle. I plan to use it for nothing much than hay rack rides and light duty hauling anyway.

Considering how low the sides of the box are, it could not have held much corn. Loads were very light so very little opportunity for abuse or damage.

Not every farmer automatically beats their equipment to pieces, you know.

You do not want a fifth wheel style wagon like this for hay rides. When the front end jackknifes, the wagon can easily tip over dumping all the riders on the ground.

 

[Leroy]

Those wagons were not ment to be able to turn the axle 90 degres to the bed and that is what the ones complaing about tipping were doing It was all the fault of the operator if they had problems like that with the wagon. Think about how short you can turn the front wheels of your car and don't try to turn any shorter than that. If they had problems with tipping like that if they were using an auto guide steer wagon they would have been complaining about breaking the front axle out of them because they were trying to turn too short and trying to drag the front of the wagon side sideways like trying to turn on a dime. Just use your brain and you will have no problems. If that axle turns that far then it is ment to turn it only for storage setting empty with the toung under the bed so something else could be backed up against the front of the bed. I do have litature someplace on the Electric Wheel wagons and if I remember correctly but been years since I looked at it that wagon was rated for 5 tons and there other wagons were rated for 4 or 6 tons. 1950's loads, not 2010 loads.

 

[DR. EVIL]

And Titan also bought the French & Hecht Walcot Iowa small rim & wheel plant. The large rear wheel & Rim plant was closed, tire down and a new multi-lane intersection built on the old plant site.
Titan Proform was originally a BIG Stamping company, they stamped out the center disc's for dual wheels and tractors with steel disk wheels. MAURY Taylor owned the company, Maury bought rims from French & Hecht to get into the ag tractor wheel business. When I first started dealing with Titan when I bought wheels, rims, & tires for FARMALL they only made the two 10-bolt duals for the 1566, 1568, & 1586, both the 16x38 and 18x38. BOTH F&H and Electric Wheel made the 9 bolt versions of both those duals. EWC's had 4 windows between the rim & center disk, F&H had a 360 degree contact disk welded in the rim.