Utube video Wrong!

[ZANE]

Just watching a Utube video on repair of the lift on an 8N tractor.

I won't say who is making it but it is supposed to be a Ford tractor parts supply company. First thing I see is the woman who is doing the repair puts the NAA piston rings on backwards with the back up ring toward the oil. Should be toward the outside of the cylinder.

Then she calls the position cam follwer pin the "Draft" pin and proceeds to try to show you how to install a 1/2" dowel pin in that hole which is actually 5/16" dowel (.003 less than) is the original. I'd like to see her do it. After watching about half of the video I turned it off.

Next time I do a lift I'm going to try to get somebody to video it so I can put it on Utube.
I hate to think of the over 40 thousand views she has had of this mis-information.

Zane

 

[Royse]

It's on the internet, it must be true! LOL
Her carb video is flawed too.
They are playing on the "if a girl can do it, I can do it" idea.
Pay no attention to the direction that she turn screws/bolts
or the fact that they are already loosened for her to turn.
Or that the carb she's rebuilding wouldn't even fit the tractor
she claims to put it on and run/adjust it.
Nice try though. I don't have a video out there either!

 

[Tall T]

Are you talking about the video where she hammers on the lift cylinder mount bolts rather than making sure her gasket isn't stopping the bolts or that the holes are exactly aligned?
Gastly, the way she beats on the bolts @ 12:43 minutes into it.

It's titled: Hydraulic Lift Cover repair
Saw it about 6 months ago.
I tried to leave some comments but someone saw fit to not post my comment.

Everyone is so busy swooning over how cool it is for a woman to be doing all this, that they consider any criticism out of line.

 

[papapap2]

You guys are the"BOMB" as they say these days! Even I have vowed these with skepticism and I don't know squat! Please do make some videos then people like me can really learn from the best! Go for it Zane and Royce!

 

[Jason S.]

She actually responded to a comment I made on FB about her carb video because I said she left out a lot of stuff. The truth is her dad does most of the work and she just shows some steps on disassembly and reassembly. She actually is a nice person but I don't like how they mislead people and having that big S parts company backing it and having them on their page makes it worse. Imagine how many people go to that site to buy parts and see those videos and think that is how stuff is done.

 

[Royse]

papapap2, I think "the bomb" was popular about 20 years ago.
Probably no longer said "these days". LOL
Not that it matters, we're working on 65+ year old equipment!
Our "rising star" at work was born after my first child. c'est la vie.

Maybe I can get GB in MT to make a video for us too.
He's got nothing better to do! :lol:

 

[Royse]

Jason I have no doubt that they are good people.
They're fairly local to me actually.
The video obviously showed that someone else did the work.

I understand that they're trying to make a living and help others
at the same time. I commend them for that effort.
I would think though, that with as much experience as they have,
they could put something together that at least said "these are
the basic steps" instead of making it sound like that was all you needed.

 

[steve19438]

I still hear people saying "right on".

 

[Tall T]

I wish someone would tell me what bloody video Zane is referring to. If it is the one I mentioned, then it appears to me that she did get the ring placement correct.

The O Ring is toward the solid end of the piston
and the backup leather is toward the open end of the piston.

So what exactly does zane mean by this?
" . . . backwards with the back up ring toward the [b:dc9069c66b]oil[/b:dc9069c66b].

Is the OIL end not the solid end of the piston?

thanks,
T

 

[1951 8N]

I wish someone would tell me what bloody video Zane is referring to. If it is the one I mentioned, then it appears to me that she did get the ring placement correct.

The O Ring is toward the solid end of the piston
and the backup leather is toward the open end of the piston.

So what exactly does zane mean by this?
" . . . backwards with the back up ring toward the [b:96a02897ad]oil[/b:96a02897ad].

Is the OIL end not the solid end of the piston?

thanks,
T

This video:

Hydraulic Lift Cover Repair

 

[Tall T]

'51 8N,

Thanks, that IS the one I thought was being referred to and that I was referring to in my first post.

BUT. . .
Zane said she put the leather backup washer and the O-ring on backwards and I don't get that.
She puts the O-ring towards the solid end of the piston
and the leather backup washer towards the open end of the piston.
If the solid end of the piston is what Zane called the "toward the OIL" end
and thats the end she has the neoprene O-ring at, why is that wrong?

 

[1951 8N]

'51 8N,

Thanks, that IS the one I thought was being referred to and that I was referring to in my first post.

BUT. . .
Zane said she put the leather backup washer and the O-ring on backwards and I don't get that.
She puts the O-ring towards the solid end of the piston
and the leather backup washer towards the open end of the piston.
If the solid end of the piston is what Zane called the "toward the OIL" end
and thats the end she has the neoprene O-ring at, why is that wrong?

I don't see anything wrong with the way she put the o-ring and the backup washer on. As far as I know that is the way they go on!

 

[ZANE]

She put the backup washer ring toward the oil. Not
toward the solid end where it should go.

Zane

 

[ZANE]

The oil is what pushes the piston.

Zane

 

[ZANE]

The back up leather O ring washer is there to
cushion the rubber O ring when it is pushed toward
the closed end of the piston. It keeps the rubber
O ring from being cut against the sharp edge of
the ring land (groove).
She did not install it right.

Zane

 

[John Smith8N]

Now you have all made me waste time to watch the silly video. She has installed the o-ring and leather backup ring correctly. It is NOT backwards. She would find it much easier to install the leather first, and then the o-ring, but everybody has their own ways. She got it right, that's all that matters.

 

[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 16:47:08 03/09/15) The back up leather O ring washer is there to
cushion the rubber O ring when it is pushed toward
the closed end of the piston. It keeps the rubber
O ring from being cut against the sharp edge of
the ring land (groove).
She did not install it right.

Zane

Sorry buddy but I watched it three times just to be sure and she has the backup ring on it right. The solid end of the piston gets the oil pressure and the backup ring goes on the side opposite the pressure source.

TOH

 

[ZANE]

Calf Rope!
I stand corrected.
I have no excuse.

I'd like to see her get that 1/2" dowel in the position linkage though!

Zane

 

[jon]

I have no excuse.

Just blame it on too many birthdays Zane, that's gettin' to be my excuse!

 

[jon]

Sorry buddy but I watched it three times just to be sure and she has the backup ring on it right. The solid end of the piston gets the oil pressure and the backup ring goes on the side opposite the pressure source.

I see what got him, she flipped the piston over after installing the o-ring. :wink:

 

[Tall T]

Jon,

She's a practicing magician
with a new version of the shell game
only she got Zane with,
O.K. which end is the leather on.

But Zane nailed the dowel size
at least I'm taking his word for it..

Terry