Vertical Exhaust

[Skipper_488]

Is it difficult to change from the standard horizontal exhaust to a vertical exhaust on a side mount distributor 8N? Is there anything that must be taken into consideration? Anyone that's done it have any pictures?

 

[Bruce (VA)]

The 2 main reasons not to do it are smelling the exhaust and finding every low hanging branch on your property.

The main reason to do it is if you cut/rake a lot of hay.
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[Smokeonthewater]

Nope not difficult and pretty self explanatory.... google it and you'll find plenty of pics

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Side or front mount distributor makes no difference. The Vertical Exhaust was designed to fit both. The kit includes a bracket that mounts on the head. I believe FORD TRACTOR never had one directly but plenty of aftermarket units were and are available. The impotent question is what will the application be for your tractor? Both the standard horizontal unit and the vertical stack unit have their pros and cons. The original idea came from farmers mowing hay and silage catching their fields on fire so the vertical stack was designed. The cons with the vertical system is you have exhaust fumes blowing back at the operator and risk snagging a low hanging tree branch, clothes line, or telephone wire and snapping off the upright pipe unless you get one of the optional, hinged models > ) grin!). Cons with the standard unit are besides the fire hazard, exhaust fumes blowing back behind and would allow a person operating a belt pulley and/or cordwood saw to inhale the toxic gases, or if you are pulling a wagon with kids/people that can also breathe in the fumes. FYI; the NAA and Hundred Series required a special cast bracket in order to mount the vertical pipe with. Distributors were on opposite side of engine. nnalert has them - $55.


FORD 9N w/VERTICAL MOUNT EXHAUST:

Tim Daley(MI)

 

[Ken(Ark)]

I was thinking you needed to remove a head bolt or nut to bolt one end of a bracket to . I don't look forward to possibly damaging a critical component on an otherwise good running motor . I have installed a few and not had a problem though .

Never had a problem with fumes unless in high gear on the road , but low limbs are a menace . Once your bracket is installed you could switch back and forth as your preference changes .

I like my 8N for trimming around the fence line and tree since it is so short , but use the 3000 with the extra tall stack for the fields .

Bottom line , you just need more tractors .

 

[Bruce (VA)]

Listen to Ken (Ark)

Best advice here: Bottom line , you just need more tractors .

Remember, a gentleman farmer changes tractors, not implements!
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[Dean]

Not difficult.

That said, a vertical exhaust that is not properly supported and/or too high is a very good way to break the outlet off of the exhaust manifold.

Both vertical and horizontal exhaust systems have advantages and disadvantages.

I prefer horizontal exhaust systems because I routinely drive around and beneath trees.

Your mileage may vary.

Dean

 

[tractorguy2]

I never did like the way the vertical exhaust Fit. Always loose
and shaking. Plus they make it more difficult to work on the
carburetor.

Grandpa use to plow at least 100 acres each year of wheat
stubble with an 8n and two bottom plow. Mow and rake 30 acres of
alfalfa never did start any fires.

 

[Skipper_488]

The primary reason for going with the vertical exhaust in my case is that I hate the exhaust blowing in my face when I'm attaching implements or the PTO

 

[Den N Ms]

Skipper_488,Well you could be safe and shut the engine off while you hook up the PTO or implements.

 

[504]

Exhaust smell is not what I hated about a vertical pipe,it is the heat blowing in my face. I am talking about a working tractor.
Back when you dropped the plow in the ground at 6am and stayed there till 10:00 at night. On the other hand, the heat coming up
through the running board cooking your feet was not any better. Bigger tractors seemed to have this better thought out,mufflers
more to the front. While I am complaining about heat,I had a lot of time spent on TO 20 Ferguson,Massey 65,165 and even my 656
hydro,the straddle mount tractors have a lot of heat coming from that transmission between your legs.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Yep, every manual states that you must shut off tractor when dismounting for any reason.

SAFETY FIRST!

Tim Daley(MI)

 

[Skipper_488]

Ordinarily I would agree with you, BUT I did an engine rebuild last year and I had a machine shop ream the new bushing for the oil pump and I don't think they did it correctly, now sometimes when the engine is hot and I shut it off then start it again I lose oil pressure and have to reprime the oil pump, which is a pain in the buttocks to say the least. So once I start it for the day I try not to shut it off until I'm done.

 

[Ultradog MN]

[i:654c4848f0]the straddle mount tractors have a lot of heat coming from that transmission between your legs.[/i:654c4848f0]

Well said.
On the Fords, the worst of them were the Select O Speeds.
The 65 to 75 models were equipped with an oil cooler to try to dissipate some of that heat.
Optional on the 2/3000s and standard on the 4/5000 models.
All that heat between your legs is one reason I like my platform tractor. It is cooler to operate.
PS, I found a couple of photos of a 2N with a vertical exhaust. Was comparing the height of the nose on a couple of tractors I had at the time.

 

[Skipper_488]

Very nice. Thanks for the pictures

 

[Den N Ms]

Skipper_488, It sounds like you need to drop the oil pan and repair the problem,before it causes bearing damage to your engine!Instead of worrying about a exhaust pipe.It could be the oil pump is the problem,but sounds more like a cracked or loose oil pick up tube.Especially if is loosing oil pressure when the engine is warmed up to operating temperature and the oil gets thinner.Take the time and drop the oil pan for a look,or at least drain the oil and reach up in the drain hole and see if you can shake the pick up bell or the tube on the pick up for being loose at the oil pump.A crack at the oil pump plate will cause pressure loss when it is warmed up.