Very Curious

[Ellis Kinney]

This is a picture I copied from Tractor House. The tractor was advertised as a 1951 Farmall M with factory 3 point hitch. From the picture I believe it is an M. I have never seen a 3 point hitch setup like this. Has anyone seen a setup like this? If someone figured this out from other tractor model parts it is ingenious. My curiosity is really piqued at this. Ellis

 

[tractorsam]

It?s probably a top cover off a B450 or BMD, one of the British built tractors.

 

[Janicholson]

The PTO mount pattern, and the bottom of the axle housings, are all way different than US Ms. They look European, could be French, French Super Cs had 3 point. Jim

 

[D Slater]

Transmission housing, axle housings and lift is from a British tractor. Some of the rest looks like a mixture. Hitch is missing some original parts.

 

[SadFarmall]

Not one I have seen here. There was an option here for Farmall M tractors here in Australia, which used a different gearbox lid from standard
SadFarmall

 

[CenTex Farmall]

Looks British.

There is the remains of a BMD in a salvage yard not terrible far from here. Interesting to look at what they got and wonder why they didn't market some of the features in the U.S.

 

[DeltaRed]

British tractor.

 

[Ellis Kinney]

I wonder why IH didn't sell this model in America? Ellis

 

[DeltaRed]

I have often wondered the same thing. Unless IH thought US farmers would not accept sush a modern idea. Or maybe IH would have to reengineer a complete line of equipment that would make the 'old stuff' obsolete??? Interesting to do some research on.

 

[rustyfarmall]

In 1951, Ford/Ferguson still owned the patent on 3 point hitch systems, and no one else was allowed to copy it. That is why IH came up with the 2 point fast hitch, and Case developed the eagle claw hitch. Allis-Chalmers came up with the snap-coupler.

 

[D Slater]

Don't remember the complete story from the past, but some dealers did get some shipped to the US to sell. More ones in the south if I remember correct. Made the B450 up to 1970. International B 450 start in 58 and the Farmall B 450 start in in 59. By then IH was up to IPTO tractors and bigger tractors in the sixties. Think most imported ones were sold to no frills buyers for use. Some SBMD tractors had a engine driven hydraulic system but not sure if a 3 point was used on any.

 

[SadFarmall]

Yes, BM and BMD and Super BMD tractors were available with three point linkage. Different system from the ones designed in Geelong for AMD and Super AMD tractors, though the diesel tractors shared they same AD264 motor and hydraulic pump.
SadFarmall

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Patents are the reason that a lot of things were, and still are, done in strange ways.

You either pay the patent owner a royalty to use their design, or you come up with something that doesn't infringe on the patent.

When you see something and ask, "Why didn't they do it this way? It would be so much simpler," it's because of patents. Someone owns the patent to the simple solution.