W51A John Deere baler

[jdiesel]

i have a john deere w51a side discharge baler. i know it was low production, but i am not sure just how low. if anyone has any info on this such as price, parts availability, and production number i would sure like to know. thansk, jake

 

[Leroy]

That is a part of the serial number, not part of the model number. My one baler has that W51A in the serial number. The actual model Number is 116W and that is not a low production baler and built from 1946 to 1956 in 2 different versions and I have 1 of both versions setting here. Forget about getting any parts for the last 30 years and the wire coils of today will not fit in the boxes, have heard here that there is someplace that rerols the new larger coils to fit the small boxes but do not know if that is tru. At the time they were made John Deere did not have a twine baler except in 1956 when the 14T came out and the 114W and 116W were discontinued as of 1957 when the 14W came out.

 

[jdiesel]

that helps alot, but i would still like to know what this thing is worth, i bought it at action for $80, the runner up bidder was a scrap buyer and i wasnt going to let him have it. i would like to sell it, but i do not know a fair market value, it is all original, but in exeptional shape, all the sheet metal is straight, all the pieces are there that i know of, the machine seems to work fine when cranked over by hand, but i have not put a tractor on it yet. are they the same value as a 14t or are they worth more for simply a show item? thanks, Jake

 

[Leroy]

Years ago I pain like $40 for the older one and better one that I have and $75 for the later one so I would have both models for the shows. I don't think you will get any more out of it than the scrap man would have paid.

 

[Tx Jim]

Leroy,
Can you show a picture or sales literature on a JD 14W baler? I never saw one or heard of one before now.
Thanks,Jim

 

[Leroy]

Where I got that information was out of Green Magazine several year ago. never seen one either as twine took over.

 

[RayP(MI)]

14 W looks a lot like a 14 T, except the wire box sits on the brace for the rear drawbar, and the wire tieing mechanism is different than the twine tie. Have a fellow who brings his 14W to the Blanchard (MI) steam show, to bale the straw from the thrashing demo. Thought it was a real oddball, until I realized he had the top cover over the pickup/auger missing. hen I realized it's not much different then the old 14T we used, when I was a kid.

 

[Stan - Florida]

I put a couple of pictures of a 114W baler over in the Implement Photos section.

Stan - Florida

 

[Leroy]

The 114W baler was a side discharge type same as the 116W only a 2" lower in height baler. 14" tall bale against a 16" tall bale. The 14T & 14W balers were rear discharge. My Grandpa had a Deere rear discharge baler that you punched the wires in from the left side wile riding an a platform and them a person on the right side punched them back thru again and the first person tied the bale manually. the person on the right droped in the blocks to seperate the bales.
Diod not have a model No. was only called a pickup hay press. Was not old enough to ever have seen that baler but wish I had it now.

 

[jdiesel]

well i guess it sounds like the baler is worth just what i paid for it, one bid above scrap price. i decided against selling it after i got it off of the trailer and hooked it up, that thing really makes a nice bale!! I think it will look preatty good behind my 52 R at the next show, and now i have a winter paint project. thanks for the info guys.

 

[Leroy]

Now I have a question for you and your answer will be able to dictate what you put on the sign.
Does it have a rotating drum with teeth sticking out of it and 2 springs on the bale chamber? If so one of the early style from 1946 to about 1950? The newer ones would have a modern type pickup and 4 springs on the bale chamber, if this way would be one of the newer stly built from1950? to 1956. Does it have the drop on the ground bale chute? Or the long curved wagon loading bale shute and wagon hitch? The early only came with the drop on the ground settup, later Deere offered the loading chute as an option after seeing the ones made by Holden Bros. of West Liberty and coppied them. The bros. never applied for a pattent on them and that is how JD was able to get away with making them. The Holdren Bros welding shop is still in business but the Bros are now gone. I have the Holdren shute on both my balers and a few year ago before I had the newer one I took the older one to a show at West Liberty and the remaing Bro at that time and the old shop forman could hardly get over the fact that any of their shuts were still in exinstance. You do know that baler will narrow down to an even 8 foot wide for road transport or storage? In use with the wagon hitch they take over 16' to get thru.

 

[jdiesel]

it sounds like i have an early modle, i think the bail shute was originally for ground delivery but there are extra brackets welded to it that i think made it high enough for a wagon and there is a very crude hitch on the back. i think for restoration i will take off all of the home made stuff and make it a ground baler again. i am very exited about this now, because of the low price and believe it or not once i got the wire spools down to good wire this thing took right off and i put five bales though it!