What a day...

Started okay. Got the new radiator installed. (You'll have to back a few weeks to read about what happened, but this is the first chance I've had to go out to the cabin, where the 8N lives since the old one cratered--or more accurately, since I realized it had cratered.)

That part went all right, with a couple minor hiccups. I forgot the neck pad, until after the hood was on, though. (It didn't have one before, so I'm sure it's no big deal.) Unless you guys say otherwise, it'll wait until the next time the hood is off.

I also left off the thermostat, since I couldn't figure out how to install it. It's supposed to go inside the hose, right? But it doesn't fit inside the hose I got. Any good pictures out there?

The fan is sometimes brushing the shroud. I bang on the part of the shroud where it's rubbing, and it goes away for a while, and comes back. I'll have to do a better job of bending that part of the shroud away.

Up to that point, things are pretty much as expected. (You can't expect any job to go off without a hitch, can you?)

Then things started to go to heck.

The tractor won't run for more than a minute or so. Less under load, and less if just restarted. But it will restart, right away, when given choke. (No choke after the engine starts, though.) This tractor ran just fine before I pulled the radiator. My thoughts are fuel. I wasn't in the mood to troubleshoot this afternoon, so it'll wait until next time. (It was a pleasant 0°F today. With the sun shining, it was actually a fair bit nicer than I'd have expected at that temperature. But you don't want to be messing about with bare hands longer than necessary...)

Anyway, I had been moving the hood on and off, so perhaps some gunk went where it shouldn't have. I'll check flow out the tube to the carb and out the bottom of the carb. (How much flow should there be? I recall someone posting a number of how long it should take to get a quart or something like that.)

Any reason I should be thinking something other than fuel (pending the results of the flow test)?

(8N, Front mount, 6V.)

And then the real fun started. I wanted to put some air in the tires of my truck (I hate the idea of paying a gas station a buck for some air), so I hauled out the generator and compressor. And by hauled, I mean through the snow, about 100 ft. Got the generator started with about 20 pulls. (That thing starts on the first pull every single time when it's above freezing.)

Since I had the generator out, I put the charger on the tractor battery, to help make up for all the starts and minimal run time it had. No current indication on the charger. Opened it up (twelve screws), fixed the broken wire, and put it back on the tractor.

Plugged in the compressor, and got it started. While the tank was filling, tried to unroll the hose. It didn't like the cold, and broke (with a nice bang, since it had pressure in it). Shut off the compressor, and heard a hissing noise where there shouldn't be one, and not a little hiss, either. I think it's the tank pressure regulator. It'll have to go in for service. And I need a new hose. And I'll have to pay a buck for air at a gas station to get the tire light in my truck to go out.

At least the tractor and/or generator were making enough noise most of the time that my wife didn't complain about the language that was happening for each of these events... (The kids were around, after all.)

-Paul
 
Feel your pain. Just HAD to go to work other day as enough went wrong at home just to see what would go wromg there too lol
 
Sounds like one of those days.
We all have them now and then but they sure aren't much fun.
It sounds like a fuel issue why it's quitting.
Remove the plug on the bottom of the float bowl and let it whiz into a can. You should get full flow for at least a minute.
As to the fan hitting the shroud; I have messed with those till I was blue in the face.
What I do first is loosen the fan belt and spin the fan over by hand and check to make sure all 4 blades are about the same distance fore and aft.
If that doesn't work then I take my angle grinder with a sanding disc on it and grind about 1/32" off the ends of all 4 blades. Clean them up afterwards so they're not sharp.
Some may say it could throw the fan out of balance but as bent up as I have seen some fans I doubt it matters a whole lot.
 
Uh, if you had a REAL truck, you wouldn't have to
worry about the "idiot light" for air in your tire.
My '76 Ford doesn't really care what the pressure
is!!!?!
 
Sounds like a miserable day. Nothing works like it should in the cold.

I agree with UD on the fan blade. Spin it and see if one of the blades are proud. If so, gently pass a mill file over the offending blade (you should be able to do this with the fan attached by turning it to the 2 o'clock position and have enough clearance between blade and shroud). Shrouds are a pain in the butt and I'm not convinced of their usefulness on an N.

Colin, MN
 
I hate days like that and they seem to come all too often!

If you haven't already, check to see if you have any wobble in that
fan. You don't want it coming of and going through that new radiator!

Another thing to check since you just changed the radiator is
the clearance. Forward/aft distance on the top is controlled
by the upper radiator hose so it can easily be off a bit.
Although that shouldn't let anything move as it appears to be.

Now that it's at the cabin this would be harder to do, but to get
the thermostat in I have warmed the hose in hot water to soften it.
Then soap the thermostat so it will slide in easier.
 
To reply to a few comments:

The same shroud was fine on the old radiator (which wasn't original)--no contact with the fan. So the position has been been shifted ever so slightly on the new rad. I'll have to work on it. But maybe filing a blade--if it's only one--might be easier.

Regarding the thermostat--I saw the picture that Bruce posted in a different thread, and my new thermostat doesn't look like that one. It has a small flange on it. The cylindrical part fits nice and snugly inside the hose, but the flange doesn't. Am I supposed to force that flange inside the hose with brute force (and some warmth and soap as Royse suggests)?

Thanks,

-Paul
 

As cheap as a new top hose is get it preped with a new hose then install as a asy,,, yes its a fight to force those little stats in... You will need to use a pipe are sum'n to get'er done then make sure you zip tie it with metal zip ties on both sides....

I vote its a fuel issue...
 
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