What Engine is This? Not as advertised

[Crashfarmer]

I went and looked it over, definitely not an International engine. Definitely not a diesel of any form.

I emailed the auctioneer telling him that it's not the engine advertised. I also told him that I believe it to be a Massey Harris gasoline engine. Got no response.

I guess all I got to say is, Buyer Beware!
Lot : 3436 International diesel engine only untested .

 

[PeterE]

Are you sure that isn't an International gasoline-start diesel?

 

[onefarmer]

Definitely not a diesel! Looks like a Continental out of a MH. Doesn't look like a 260 from a 44. Might be a 201 from a 33.

 

[moresmoke]

Agree, Continental from a MH. Not sure on size. Might be a 260.

 

[paul]

I wonder how many of those gas start/ Diesel engines they made. Neighbor had one. Had to be tough on the spark plugs!

Was it just a gas engine more or less fitted up to diesel stroke and such?

Paul

 

[PeterE]

The spark plugs were in an auxiliary chamber on top of the cylinder. With that chamber open the compression was low.

After it started a valve closed off the auxiliary chamber, raising compression to diesel levels.

 

[Dieseltech]

I'd say a Continental/MH 260, has the Kerosene oil pan like some gas engines had. Never saw that on the 33/201 or 333/208 engines.

 

[stevieb49829]

Bet you there's an ID plate on the other side. Or once was. steve

 

[rustred]

Where did u come up with that idea? Its definitely a Massey Harris engine !as everyone has been saying

 

[rustred]

not so, the plugs could last the life of the engine, and the same with the magneto, as on the wd40 once on diesel the mag dont turn. that was one of the best ways to start a diesel engine. have it all warmed up then start it.

 

[Dieseltech]

No ID plate, but numbers will be stamped on the other side of upper block corner, either front or rear.

 

[r.w.b.]

and if you just killed er dead on diesel you discover fuel on sparkplugs. had to show several how to shut them off. simply reverse starting procedure. blue diesel smoke will be thick for about 30 seconds.when smoke clears shut the engine off

 

[Briar Hill Brittanys]

The tag on one of the pictures reads "IAD6004-2E. A search on the interweb came up with a replacement distributor for Massey Harris models 20,22, 30, and 81.

 

[Crashfarmer]

The only tractor I ever drove with the gas start diesel engines in it was a nice MD. I wasn't familiar with the shut down procedure so I killed it on diesel which made it hard to start up the next time. Dad had a 400 diesel but he traded it for a new 4020 John Deere diesel when I was 8 years old so I'd never started it or shut it down. I remember sitting on it and pretending to operate the 400.

I did have a good time driving the MD.

 

[centash]

Yep, definitely a MH 260....note the taller head vs. That of a 33 engine. Could be a 277 as well...

Ben

 

[Duner Wi]

20,22, 30, and 81 use 4 cyl Continental flatheds.

IAD6004-2E is for a flathead, I assume it got moved to large OHV.