Wheels n seats

[bob6940]

I recently bought a 47 2n parts tractor for my 44 restoration.The seat on the parts tractor has a coil spring and shock absorber style that is much nicer than my 44 seat. I would rather use this seat but I'm not sure when or why Ford began using them. Also the rear wheels are much different. the 47 wheels are more similar to International style wheels.They seem lighter and there is a gap between the center section and the rim versus the ones on my 44 which seem heavier,also 2 piece but with no gap.I cant find any info about these particular item styles. I also know sometimes on the assembly line things were changed just because of availability at a particular moment. Any help would be appreciated as I'm trying to be as period correct as possible.

 

[Jim L WA]

I can't help with the rims, but the seat sounds like an aftermarket seat that was available at the time.

 

[HFJ]

forget that seat for a restoration. ford never began using them

 

[bob6940]

Thank you for your reply every bit helps.

 

[Duner Wi]

Possibly a Knoedler Seat.

 

[Rusty2N]

Without a pic I am guessing you have a set of original "hat" style trims, no gap, and a set of the more modern "loop" rims. If hat rims are decent they are heavily sought after. Not made anymore. Hat rims would be proper for restore..

 

[PopsH]

Ford's EZ-Ride seat was made by Monroe, and was a dealer-installed option.

 

[Tall T]

You might get a kick out of this.

The restored seat on my Jubilee is a Ford 2000 style and the air and oil shock part of it is still a mystery. But I love it and think it suits the tractor well so I'd never compromise my comfort for originality. I had to reintroduce oil into it using a mytivac and after that one charges it with 100 lbs of compressed air.
I painted it after restoration with New Holland Red, Valspar --
a great shade of red.

 

[bob6940]

I really appreciate the pic and the info. I don't believe the seat would be aftermarket, the brackets are much to well made. It was not a cheap bolt on and it was made for the N series tractors for sure. As for the wheels, that is good info thank you guys very much.

 

[R Geiger]

(quoted from post at 08:58:26 08/04/20) I really appreciate the pic and the info. I don't believe the seat would be aftermarket, the brackets are much to well made. It was not a cheap bolt on and it was made for the N series tractors for sure. As for the wheels, that is good info thank you guys very much.

I don't care what you believe, but the seat IS an aftermarket one and not made by Ford!

 

[Tall T]

(quoted from post at 07:58:26 08/04/20) I really appreciate the pic and the info. I don't believe the seat would be aftermarket, the brackets are much to well made. It was not a cheap bolt on and it was made for the N series tractors for sure. As for the wheels, that is good info thank you guys very much.

"Aftermarket" is not by default synonymous with cheap or poorly made, in fact aftermarket can be every bit as good and even higher quality than OEM.

My seat assembly is aftermarket and made to accept a ford 2000 seat pan. It is perfectly built, heavy duty with a great stainless air shock and it BOLTS ON.

 

[Tall T]

(quoted from post at 07:58:26 08/04/20) I really appreciate the pic and the info. I don't believe the seat would be aftermarket, the brackets are much to well made. It was not a cheap bolt on and it was made for the N series tractors for sure. As for the wheels, that is good info thank you guys very much.

Bob,

Sorry, you probably meant "aftermarket" in the sense of getting the exact reproductions of a part, which can definitely be a crap shoot for sure. I recently bellyached about a glass bowl reproduction fuel pump for my '53 Chev engine
cause it was so clumsily assembled.

The Dealer (Chev's of 40's) was great and gave me a full refund after I sent them closeups of the crooked self-tapping screws. My original fuel pumps are machine screws.

But to after market Mfg. (Airco) credit their installed rubber diaphragm was the perfect double layer ones with the mesh in between, exactly like my original fuel pumps always had. I bought a fuel pump kit from back east U.S. and discovered the diaphragm was only single layer of rubber and there was no cup under the diaphragm center to center and contain the diaphragm spring. There it sits in a box -- too late to send it back.

I saw Jay Leno one time talking about reproduction fuel pumps not lasting worth a damn but he didn't explain why. Well, the single diaphragm is why or the big spring sliding off to one side,
not centered.

I think I'll still give them a call.

So aftermarket . . . sorry.
My seat is only half aftermarket.
the base and frame isn't a copy of anything
But it is made to accept the same seat as Ultradog has on one of his blue Fords.