Widefront on super mta

[dinselm95]

Can anyone tell me what brand of widefront this is. Can't find a tag or anything on it
Thanks!

 

[fastfarmall]

Thats a duke's mixture, of the old IHC frontend, with reversed steering arms, and they copied the Speeco brand Pivot and welded it on top of the pipe, to be the new pivot.

 

[Janicholson]

Not the brand, but I can tell you that the steering arms on top of the spindles are incorrect for a system with the steering rods behind the axle. Ackermann Geometry is way important to keep the front wheels from skidding around corners. Seriously important. Move your left spindle to the right and the right spindle to the left. The offset in the keyways will then be correct. Jim
The reality of the linkage

 

[Janicholson]

The rim offset is also different from side to side. The correct offset is close to the spindle . Jim

 

[kub6040]

I am with fastfarmall on this one , homemade from speeco and others not store bought .

 

[DeltaRed]

You have a 'mutt'. It was oreiginally an 'old style' M/SM front. it is mounted backwards,meaning the tie rods are on the back.
The pivot is homemadse,patterned after the Swarts,Norden.... The tierods are a mix of old style and Swarts.Then someone put 6
bolt hubs on to replace the old cast 3 bolt hub.If it works,dont worry,just drive it.

 

[FBH44]

Very valuable information, Jim. Thanks. I knew the concept, but had no idea of Ackerman geometry.

 

[David G]

Will swapping spindles get the correct angle?

If not, you could get new keyways cut.

My dad was old time front end guy, so this talk makes me remember him.

 

[GordoSD]

Is the right hand side rim much narrower than the left?