Won't turn over... jumped it...

[TheBoro]

41 9n 6v.

Compression is LOW, but it started and ran great all winter for plowing.
Week ago it started hard, then stalled out from not letting it warm up enough. Tired to restart with no luck. Figured that the battery was too low. Tried it a few times, until no noise from the starter. Figured that I just had to charge up the battery. Did that today. Battery is fully charged. When I turn on the ignition the amp meter moves. I push the button and the starter will still not make a sound. I jumped it from my truck (direct to the starter), and she started right up.

Soooo, would it all be from too low compression? Or something else?

THANKS

 

[JMOR]

Look to your starter switch & cables.

 

[TheBoro]

(quoted from post at 17:33:55 04/03/11) Look to your starter switch & cables.

Thanks!

Cables - bright and tight, right?
switch... what would I be looking for with that? Can I test it?

 

[Tom N MS]

IN NEUTRAL-jump the switch and see what happens.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 12:46:17 04/03/11)

(quoted from post at 17:33:55 04/03/11) Look to your starter switch & cables.

Thanks!

Cables - bright and tight, right?
switch... what would I be looking for with that? Can I test it?

ust short the two big terminals together with a wrench & see it starter runs. If it does, then switch needs attention/replaced. BE SURE TRANSMISSION IN NEUTRAL, so as to NOT run over yourself.

 

[Charles Krammin]

Sounds like pooor connection in starter system. Check
1.Clean battery cables on both + and - on battery and thru next connection to starter and ground.
2. take starter out and shine up between starter and bell housing and bolts holding starter on bell housing.
3. Jump accross starter button to test if it is corroded (Terminal on bell housing, that has the cable to starter) from your hot side of battery.

By jumping direct to starter you eliminated all the above in the circuit. Corrision of these circuit, requires constant maintainance. I put linseed oil on battery terminal to elinate "Ozone corrosion buildup", which needs to be removed using "Bi-carbonate of soda" ( baking soda).
Charles Krammin SW MI

 

[TheBoro]

Thanks guys...

I put it in neutral and used a wrench. Fired up.
So its the round starter switch then?
Can I clean it up or replace?

 

[G6 at Snook, TX]

They do fail over time, probably just need to replace it. Can be gotten from YT, Just 8ns, external_link, or a local Case New Holland Shop. You will have to remove the transmission cover, and when you do be careful not to lose the spring that is under the lip at the rear of the tranny cover. That spring puts pressure on a ball that holds first and third gears in place. Also, buy a shifter cover gasket or two for the job. Two just in case you rip one. They are cheap. I would clean the underbelly of the cover up with some kerosene or diesel, remove the nut, pop out the old and in with the new. The biggest headache might be the installation of the three nuts near the button, shifter and sheet metal from the instrument panel. Pretty simple over all.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 16:20:03 04/03/11) They do fail over time, probably just need to replace it. Can be gotten from YT, Just 8ns, external_link, or a local Case New Holland Shop. You will have to remove the transmission cover, and when you do be careful not to lose the spring that is under the lip at the rear of the tranny cover. That spring puts pressure on a ball that holds first and third gears in place. Also, buy a shifter cover gasket or two for the job. Two just in case you rip one. They are cheap. I would clean the underbelly of the cover up with some kerosene or diesel, remove the nut, pop out the old and in with the new. The biggest headache might be the installation of the three nuts near the button, shifter and sheet metal from the instrument panel. Pretty simple over all.

G6, don't feel too bad, but he did say that he had a '41, 9N........looks like you are advising him on the more difficult 8N switch replacement.

 

[TheBoro]

Oh good...you said easier right? What do I have to do with the 9n? Can I just follow my FO4? Do you have any tips for the job? Or pics?

 

[Tom N MS]

My 47 - 2N was doing the same thing when I bought it Sept. 04--PO was shorting with a screwdriver to crank it..Soon as I drove it home (10 miles) I removed the push button switch and dumped it in a container of gas--swished it around and removed about a cup full of grease and gunk..Blew it and dried it out with compressed air--re-installed it and it is still working today..

 

[lha]

I've got the same ['41 9n]and it's pretty easy to unscrew the switch,check the pivot mechanism.that it's not worn out or broken[You can get it on this site].The switch,on front of the steering box can be cleaned up and will work if not otherwise broken.---lha

 

[G6 at Snook, TX]

Blew right past the 41 9n and my mind was already thinking about the 8n. My mistake.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 22:34:16 04/03/11) Blew right past the 41 9n and my mind was already thinking about the 8n. My mistake.

ou ain't the first! I'm a repeat offender, especially when they put that ID info in the Subject & not in the text!