Oliver 1800 fuel filter

[arlen aas]

I have a 63 oliver 1800 Diesel Took off the NAPA 3165 secondary fuel filter. NAPA says it no longer made but that a 3166 replaced it. Tried 3166. No go. Tried WIX 33165. Won't work. The gaskets roll out and leak. I've read that the 3166 won't work on the older tractors but can't find any advice on what WILL work. Looking for help.

 

[Jim.ME]

WIX made the NAPA 3165 filters for a long time, the WIX 33165 should have worked, as NAPA dropped the first digit of the WIX number on the NAPA filters.

 

[arlen aas]

WIX made the NAPA 3165 filters for a long time, the WIX 33165 should have worked, as NAPA dropped the first digit of the WIX number on the NAPA filters.

Can get the WIX 33165 to seal. The Napa 3165 and 3166 are structurally different. There is a 3165 on eBay.....but $90. Hoping someone on this site had a warehouse of them or a "for sure will work" alternative to the 3165. We already cremated the old 3165 but pulled it's carcass out of the stove. It's quite a bit different than the 3166.

 

[oliverkid]

As far as I know that filter is now only available from AGCO. Part number 609689AS. I know is no longer available from Wix/NAPA, or Baldwin. Don’t remember if we tried Fleetgaurd for one but we are moving back to all AGCO filters anyway.

 

[arlen aas]

As far as I know that filter is now only available from AGCO. Part number 609689AS. I know is no longer available from Wix/NAPA, or Baldwin. Don’t remember if we tried Fleetgaurd for one but we are moving back to all AGCO filters anyway.

Ok good. I didn't want to get an AGCO and have same leaky results. I'll get the AGCO. Thanks......

 

[scootergmc]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167939713124

I've purchased from these guys before. They have 2 NOS baldwins available. I think that filter is the same as the 550 and other four digits if I remember correctly.

 

[carolina oliver]

I had the same issue. Maibach offers a new version that is supposed to work, bought 2 but haven't installed one yet. I'd try them, bout $40 I think.

 

[GermantownGreen]

Can get the WIX 33165 to seal. The Napa 3165 and 3166 are structurally different. There is a 3165 on eBay.....but $90. Hoping someone on this site had a warehouse of them or a "for sure will work" alternative to the 3165. We already cremated the old 3165 but pulled it's carcass out of the stove. It's quite a bit different than the 3166.

Bailey,my oldest son,, @AntiqueAcres, shares me that he saw Tom at O'Brien County implement had some old stock wix, good fitting filters. Give him a call Monday morning. They will ship....
GG Wes

 

[Harry in Ky]

I guess I'm missing some important points here, but is retaining the original filter base all that important? I've been in multiple situations where certain parts of a filter assembly were missing, broken, or unavailable. Replacement elements are hard to find (or afford), that sort of thing. I always managed to find a complete filter assembly somewhere that would bolt on and do the job. Something with affordable elements available anywhere. No one ever complained about it. I'm not talking about accurately detailed restoration projects of course, just farm tractors that need clean fuel and filters available when needed.

 

[scootergmc]

I guess I'm missing some important points here, but is retaining the original filter base all that important? I've been in multiple situations where certain parts of a filter assembly were missing, broken, or unavailable. Replacement elements are hard to find (or afford), that sort of thing. I always managed to find a complete filter assembly somewhere that would bolt on and do the job. Something with affordable elements available anywhere. No one ever complained about it. I'm not talking about accurately detailed restoration projects of course, just farm tractors that need clean fuel and filters available when needed.

Important is a relative term. Of course one can modernize and update. Some of us also like originality without having accurately detailed restoration projects.

 

[Harry in Ky]

Important is a relative term. Of course one can modernize and update. Some of us also like originality without having accurately detailed restoration projects.

I can agree with that thought up to a point. The point where practicality out runs originality. The tractors I work on aren't showpieces. No one cares if every part on them is "factory original". If that's important then by all means, keep it that way. In my world it's more important that the tractor is in the field working rather than on display. We all make choices.

 

[oliverkid]

I can agree with that thought up to a point. The point where practicality out runs originality. The tractors I work on aren't showpieces. No one cares if every part on them is "factory original". If that's important then by all means, keep it that way. In my world it's more important that the tractor is in the field working rather than on display. We all make choices.

Alright. Well the OP is working on an 1800B factory FWA with a back story. So it’s not one you want to be hacking up if it’s avoidable. And new filters are still easily available through AGCO for sure. So there’s no reason to swap the filter base.

 

[arlen aas]

Guys. I'm the initial poster of this topic. I'm going to try to keep it original. I will just plow at the nieghbor plowathon now and then. Thanks for all the help..... I think I'll go with the AGCO route so that the next guy who replaces the filter( probably won't be me...)will have a solid reference to source the filter. Now......to keep the fuel from deteriorating......

 

[GermantownGreen]

Guys. I'm the initial poster of this topic. I'm going to try to keep it original. I will just plow at the nieghbor plowathon now and then. Thanks for all the help..... I think I'll go with the AGCO route so that the next guy who replaces the filter( probably won't be me...)will have a solid reference to source the filter. Now......to keep the fuel from deteriorating......

Central Petroleum company from Ohio.
We use their diesel and gas additives in the barrel all the time. Has done well. GG Wes

 

[scootergmc]

I can agree with that thought up to a point. The point where practicality out runs originality. The tractors I work on aren't showpieces. No one cares if every part on them is "factory original". If that's important then by all means, keep it that way. In my world it's more important that the tractor is in the field working rather than on display. We all make choices.

Like I said, relative.