Wanted 656 Utility Gas Engine

[Brent Blocker]

We are needing a good international 656 utility engine, mine is cracked block and not worth repairing, hoping to find a complete engine or good short block. Please Let us know if you have something or know where to find one, some of old international small combines used these engines possibly.Thanks

 

[flmeredith]

I have a running 6 cyl 221 off a combine, little less power but runs nice

 

[the tractior vet]

We are needing a good international 656 utility engine, mine is cracked block and not worth repairing, hoping to find a complete engine or good short block. Please Let us know if you have something or know where to find one, some of old international small combines used these engines possibly.Thanks

Any of the 6 cylinder gas engines will FIT , but you will have to use some pieces and part to make a row crop or combine engine work . Now as to finding a GOOD ONE that may take some doing due to the fact they all have had extensive field testing and been run hard and put away wet.

 

[Wicksfield]

We are needing a good international 656 utility engine, mine is cracked block and not worth repairing, hoping to find a complete engine or good short block. Please Let us know if you have something or know where to find one, some of old international small combines used these engines possibly.Thanks

Bates is a few miles away from you in Bourbon. Assume you've tried them?

 

[used red MN]

some of old international small combines used these engines possibly

combines IH 403 and 615.. FYI, combine engines did not have sleeves, tractor engines did. I believe the front gear cover needs to be swapped onto the engine for side frame mount bolts.

 

[MeanGene1]

There are varying degrees of cracked blocks, some of the pinning systems can repair things you wouldn't believe. Discription and pics of cracks?

 

[wwoodrow]

There are varying degrees of cracked blocks, some of the pinning systems can repair things you wouldn't believe. Discription and pics of cracks?

Your post made me curiuos about the pinning process so I watched a video. How effective is this repair and how wide of a crack can be realistically repaired ? I assume the answer to both depends on location somewhat ?

 

[Brent Blocker]

Any of the 6 cylinder gas engines will FIT , but you will have to use some pieces and part to make a row crop or combine engine work . Now as to finding a GOOD ONE that may take some doing due to the fact they all have had extensive field testing and been run hard and put away wet.

Thanks for your knowledge on these engines will check into it.

 

[Brent Blocker]

combines IH 403 and 615.. FYI, combine engines did not have sleeves, tractor engines did. I believe the front gear cover needs to be swapped onto the engine for side frame mount bolts.

Thanks, You definitely know what I should check into to make sure how much would have to be done to swap front cover. Thanks Again

 

[Brent Blocker]

Bates is a few miles away from you in Bourbon. Assume you've tried them?

Yes, has used bare block but no short block or complete engines, will have to decide how much labor and if all parts like crank and other parts are ok, so far just removed head and found crack. Thanks

 

[Brent Blocker]

Your post made me curiuos about the pinning process so I watched a video. How effective is this repair and how wide of a crack can be realistically repaired ? I assume the answer to both depends on location somewhat ?

I have a local mechanic that tore it down and found crack, he said it can be welded and put sleeve in then as I understand put a standard sleeve back in , only problem is $5-$6000 for all welding and repair and valve job and hope crank is ok may need ground, so I paid $5500 at a 4H auction then a few hours after got home found it was leaking antifreeze into #3 cyl. so if I put another 5-$6000 into it is going to be pretty expensive, may have to put clutch in while engine out, torque seemed to be ok, but will have to check it out also, it is a nice little tractor, so am going to have to decide whether to proceed or sell for parts tractor, has a nice loader in it also. Thanks to all who responded.

 

[Brent Blocker]

I have a running 6 cyl 221 off a combine, little less power but runs nice

WHERE WOULD THE ENGINE BE LOCATED AT AND APROX. PRICE. THANKS

 

[560Dennis]

Try Chalkers dismantle machine .
If this link workd

https://www.chalkers.net/inventory/?/listings/search?ScopeCategoryIDs=13%7C464%7C4%7C151000%7C152000%7C153000%7C150000%7C28%7C27%7C172000%7C173000&AccountCRMID=7242239&settingscrmid=7242241&dlr=1&Condition=DISMANTLED&page=10

 

[Brent Blocker]

Try Chalkers dismantle machine .
If this link workd

https://www.chalkers.net/inventory/?/listings/search?ScopeCategoryIDs=13%7C464%7C4%7C151000%7C152000%7C153000%7C150000%7C28%7C27%7C172000%7C173000&AccountCRMID=7242239&settingscrmid=7242241&dlr=1&Condition=DISMANTLED&page=10

Thanks, Have never heard of them will give them a call.

 

[the tractior vet]

I have a local mechanic that tore it down and found crack, he said it can be welded and put sleeve in then as I understand put a standard sleeve back in , only problem is $5-$6000 for all welding and repair and valve job and hope crank is ok may need ground, so I paid $5500 at a 4H auction then a few hours after got home found it was leaking antifreeze into #3 cyl. so if I put another 5-$6000 into it is going to be pretty expensive, may have to put clutch in while engine out, torque seemed to be ok, but will have to check it out also, it is a nice little tractor, so am going to have to decide whether to proceed or sell for parts tractor, has a nice loader in it also. Thanks to all who responded.

Ya never said where it was cracked . If you have a crack in the cylinder there is NO NEED of welding . That is B/S . A repair sleeve will solve the issue as i have done this type of repair god only knows how many times . I use a heavy wall repair sleeve , bore the block leave a step at the bottom then press the repair sleeve in with a interference fit cut and the extra length off deck the block rebore that sleeve press fit the org sleeve once the counter bore has been cut and stuff it back together and 4-5 K is again B/S Even with all machine work i am talking new kits , bearings , head work tear down and assembly should NOT cost over 3500 in todays market .

 

[Mrfred54]

Tractor vet, have done this type of repair on several different engines over the years and the cost is not that bad. Beats the price of another engine that is used and may also have issues