24 T knotter not tying

[John4780]

The knotter on the right side (inside) will tie for about 3-5 bales and then not tie for the next 3-4 bales. Most of the time it will tie a partial knot and the string will slip out of the knotter and be under the bales in the bale chute. I have timed the baler according to the book and adjusted the adjusting nut on the bill hook pressure arm in both directions. The left side will tie all day long without missing a beat. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Bob]

Do you have an operator's manual (which lists knotter problems and cures)?

I would hand-crank it through a knotter cycle and check the needle position and also check the wiper/knife arm for proper "modeling" and wiping of the billhook. Also the tension and operation of the twine discs.

 

[tim s]

I agree with Bob, these things are to complex to sort out on here..Best I can say is to compare the clearances on both sides and maybe you will see a reason for the miss..

 

[MDMO]

Make sure that it is clean of any dust or small peices of twine.

If clean advance that side just a little more to allow for the slack of wear by loosening the nut and bumping the twister gear loose and aligning the bill hook with the other in the direction of rotation.
Also the same for the twine disc.

 

[Roger in Iowa]

Look at the failed twine and compare to pictures in the operators manual to diagnose and correct!

 

[MBdeere]

Make sure you have good fresh twine. I was having trouble like that once and found that the twine was slightly bad on the bottom of the roll. put on fresh twine, worked fine then.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Here is a problem I experienced with a wire baler that could also happen with twine. In the bale chute are restrictor plates that help hold the hay in the chute so it doesn't spring back toward the plunger as the plunger pulls back to accept another charge of hay. If they are worn out or missing the rebound of the fresh charge of hay can push the twine back toward the plunger as the needles come up angling the twine back just enough that the bill hook misses the twine resulting in a missed or half tie. There are also extentions available for the plunger face that push the hay back a bit deeper into the chute that also help.
Uneven feeding can cause this to happen with one side more than the other. If your feed hooks are pulling hay more on one side than the other that side will be more prone to this problem. Try adjusting your feed forks to pull deeper into the chamber and feed more hay to the left side.

 

[John4780]

Thanks for the info guys. It will all help in trying to solve this problem. I put two new rolls of twine from John Deere in the baler last year. I did notice some pieces of thin twine on a few bales and wonder if the twine is bad. Installed new knife blades last year and rebuilt both knotters. I will check the book again. I get a little confused with the instructions on the bill hook and other adjustments