24T Baler - HELP!

[Anonymous-0]

I need help. I guess while I was baling the other day, I was picking up too much hay, or too fast. But anyway now the baler won"t tie. The reason is the tucker fingers are hitting the needles about 1/2 inch on the needles and the needles are keeping the tucker fingers from coming around to receive the string. Yesterday I loosened the tucker fingers and moved them back as far as they would go and they are still hitting the needles. I looked at the needles and they don"t look bent. I read the manual and it says that the tucker fingers are to be 3/32 clear of the needles, but i have them all the way back and there still hitting the needles. Could the needles be bent and I can"t tell by eyeing them? Any help would be appericated.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I take it the needles are going to far up? Are you sure a wad of hay didn't hit the needles which would indicate that the timing needs to be checked. Sounds like the needles need to be loosened and moved a bit back away from the bill hooks.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I really don't know what happened. Probably a wad of hay did hit the needles. If the needles are coming up too far, would that make them closer to the tucker fingers? The baler seems to be in time, because we have another 24T and I compared both yesterday.

 

[Anonymous-0]

The manual will tell you step by step how to time the baler. You'll need to pull all the hay out so you can turn it over by hand. This way you can measure where the needles are at the top of the stroke and adjust accordingly. It's been decades since I had a twine baler but I remember doing this to get the needles to bring the twine close enough to the bill hooks so they grab both strings.

 

[Tx Jim]

There is no way that I can see how timing of baler can cause needles to hit tying system.

But out of time or loose needle brake along with "non-working plungerhead stop" can cause bending of needles or possibly needle frame(piece needles bolt to).

One needs good needle to compare to arc of old needles.

 

[Mel in SW Iowa]

Pull all the hay out, take manual in one hand and
go completely through the timing and adjustment
sequence. Something is out of time.

 

[Anonymous-0]

If the baler is out of time the plunger can shove a wad of hay into the bale chamber before the needles are retracted completely clear of the chamber possibly bending them or turning them slightly where they are bolted onto the carrier arm.

 

[Tx Jim]

mjbrown
You didn't read my post very well. IT states If PLUNGERHEAD STOP IS WORKING CORRECTLY!!!!!!

An out of time baler no matter what brand or color that has an "operating/functional plungerhead stop" will shear flywheel pin before bending needles from baler being out of time.

Other things that can bend needles when baler is "in time" correctly are obstructions in bale chamber or needle hitting bale case from needle frame moving side to side from wear in pivot points.