Scottymudguy
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Hey guy"s,
I have been lurking around here for about a month & a half now...thats about how long ago I bought my first tractor. I bought a 1960 801, it has a 5" box scraper, 12" post hole digger, & a lift (name of lift slips my mind now) I know this is an "N" board but after reading this forum evry day, something tells me you guys wont mind much!!
So I bring the tractor home (drove it home about 1.5-2 miles away), right away took it down to pasture that needs some attention. Noticed a few things right away...3pt is pretty sluggish in responding up or down, draft doesnt seem to work, & everytime the tractor even started to work a little bit, it would die. Had to choke it to restart it every time & the battery was going away quick...
So up the shop I took the blue supposed to be red belly..
Drained ALL of the fluids, front to back top to bottom...motor oil was well used, tranny, hyd, & diff were all real milky (got between a pint & a quart of straight water from the diff). Went to start refilling everything and I could see something in the hydraulic sump that sent my hairs straight up!! There is a seal or bearing cover (guessing bearing though)on the rear wall to the diff sump that looked like something exploded in. I was already doubtful that new fluid was going to adress the sluggishness of the hydraulics, so off comes the cover! Got instant gratification for the earlier alarm, it was an old wound that somone else fixed...kinda. There was about 2" of gritty sludge in the bottom of the sump...yikes! So began digging a bit deeper, Hydraulic cylinder & piston were well scored & NO ring on the piston, Honed cylinder out & started a list of stuff to order piston & o-ring on top!! Saftey valve..body was ok but the internals were in about 10-12 pieces, cam follower...wore almost all the way through, on to the pump I moved...it needed a complete rebuild, all the pistons were pretty sticky, so a pump rebuild kit was added to the list as well. Had a pretty good list of things so I made my first order. While waiting for it I moved on to some electrical issues starting with plugs, wires, distbutor & its goodies, then moved onto the hacked up harness...what a wreck it was!! Took the genny, volt reg, & starter solinoid off & down to the local spark guru...turns out I should have taken the starter as well...lessons learned! So by now my first order comes in with great timing, same day I drop the electrical goodies off. Cleaned up the pump & put it all back together, no problem shop manual is pretty detailed here. Moved on the hydraulic cylinder, new o-ring & piston dont seem to be very snug...piston will fall out slowly on its own when turned up-side down... the cylinder is still round inside wich kinda surprised me, I figured the "bottom" would be egged a little, so I went to napa & got o-rings in the next 3 sizes up..2nd one up snugged everything up good. I suspect that I will be replacing the cylinder itself quite shortly though...
Replaced the cam follower no problem, funbled through getting the linkages back together & in proper places & orientation...I think & hope!! The shop manual really let me down with diagrams here, & by now it has been almost 2 weeks since the teardown, so memory isnt helping much either! Get the cover all put together, & put back in place, new fluid added & prep for a startup!! Excited, cant wait...you guys all know that feeling...
Key on...check. Say a prayer...check. Push the button....click...click...swear to my self & the faithfull dog thats always there cheering you on...try it again...click. Dead battery. Charge overnight, go back in the morning fresh cup of coffee & high hopes! Nope...the poor dog has to run out of the shop because he thinks I"m mad at him....so off to the shop goes the starter... get it back & reinstalled...still cant get her to fire up though! Re-set basic ign timing, checked for spark, double check getting fuel...fianally WAY down the list & plenty agrivated check the coil...1.5 ohms instead of the 3 needed...hmmmm
New coil installed with proper ohms, still cant get it to fire. Had to quit as I was getting nowhere...I suspect the plugs are fouled though after all the start attempts...I hope!
Going to clean the plugs, re check basic timing & giv-er a go this morning (extra prayers in order as it"s Sunday you know)!!
Found Zanes site Friday night...I expect I will be needing a jig in the near future after reading the archives on setting everything up in the linkage assemblies....unless the sun happened to be shining on this dog"s a** the day I assembled it...
Sorry this went on so long guy"s...I should have joined a couple weeks ago and I could have shortened it up a bit & saved my self some trouble whilst going through all this!!
Scott
I have been lurking around here for about a month & a half now...thats about how long ago I bought my first tractor. I bought a 1960 801, it has a 5" box scraper, 12" post hole digger, & a lift (name of lift slips my mind now) I know this is an "N" board but after reading this forum evry day, something tells me you guys wont mind much!!
So I bring the tractor home (drove it home about 1.5-2 miles away), right away took it down to pasture that needs some attention. Noticed a few things right away...3pt is pretty sluggish in responding up or down, draft doesnt seem to work, & everytime the tractor even started to work a little bit, it would die. Had to choke it to restart it every time & the battery was going away quick...
So up the shop I took the blue supposed to be red belly..
Drained ALL of the fluids, front to back top to bottom...motor oil was well used, tranny, hyd, & diff were all real milky (got between a pint & a quart of straight water from the diff). Went to start refilling everything and I could see something in the hydraulic sump that sent my hairs straight up!! There is a seal or bearing cover (guessing bearing though)on the rear wall to the diff sump that looked like something exploded in. I was already doubtful that new fluid was going to adress the sluggishness of the hydraulics, so off comes the cover! Got instant gratification for the earlier alarm, it was an old wound that somone else fixed...kinda. There was about 2" of gritty sludge in the bottom of the sump...yikes! So began digging a bit deeper, Hydraulic cylinder & piston were well scored & NO ring on the piston, Honed cylinder out & started a list of stuff to order piston & o-ring on top!! Saftey valve..body was ok but the internals were in about 10-12 pieces, cam follower...wore almost all the way through, on to the pump I moved...it needed a complete rebuild, all the pistons were pretty sticky, so a pump rebuild kit was added to the list as well. Had a pretty good list of things so I made my first order. While waiting for it I moved on to some electrical issues starting with plugs, wires, distbutor & its goodies, then moved onto the hacked up harness...what a wreck it was!! Took the genny, volt reg, & starter solinoid off & down to the local spark guru...turns out I should have taken the starter as well...lessons learned! So by now my first order comes in with great timing, same day I drop the electrical goodies off. Cleaned up the pump & put it all back together, no problem shop manual is pretty detailed here. Moved on the hydraulic cylinder, new o-ring & piston dont seem to be very snug...piston will fall out slowly on its own when turned up-side down... the cylinder is still round inside wich kinda surprised me, I figured the "bottom" would be egged a little, so I went to napa & got o-rings in the next 3 sizes up..2nd one up snugged everything up good. I suspect that I will be replacing the cylinder itself quite shortly though...
Replaced the cam follower no problem, funbled through getting the linkages back together & in proper places & orientation...I think & hope!! The shop manual really let me down with diagrams here, & by now it has been almost 2 weeks since the teardown, so memory isnt helping much either! Get the cover all put together, & put back in place, new fluid added & prep for a startup!! Excited, cant wait...you guys all know that feeling...
Key on...check. Say a prayer...check. Push the button....click...click...swear to my self & the faithfull dog thats always there cheering you on...try it again...click. Dead battery. Charge overnight, go back in the morning fresh cup of coffee & high hopes! Nope...the poor dog has to run out of the shop because he thinks I"m mad at him....so off to the shop goes the starter... get it back & reinstalled...still cant get her to fire up though! Re-set basic ign timing, checked for spark, double check getting fuel...fianally WAY down the list & plenty agrivated check the coil...1.5 ohms instead of the 3 needed...hmmmm
New coil installed with proper ohms, still cant get it to fire. Had to quit as I was getting nowhere...I suspect the plugs are fouled though after all the start attempts...I hope!
Going to clean the plugs, re check basic timing & giv-er a go this morning (extra prayers in order as it"s Sunday you know)!!
Found Zanes site Friday night...I expect I will be needing a jig in the near future after reading the archives on setting everything up in the linkage assemblies....unless the sun happened to be shining on this dog"s a** the day I assembled it...
Sorry this went on so long guy"s...I should have joined a couple weeks ago and I could have shortened it up a bit & saved my self some trouble whilst going through all this!!
Scott