806 questions

[MeanGene1]

I never had any trouble shifting either of our 706Ds

 

[Mrfred54]

With the clutch and transmission brake adjusted properly these tractors shift very well. After adjusting I have customers that can't believe how good they will shift. That goes for the 06,56,826,66,86 series.

 

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With the clutch and transmission brake adjusted properly these tractors shift very well. After adjusting I have customers that can't believe how good they will shift. That goes for the 06,56,826,66,86 series.

True dat!

 

[NY 986]

At 8300 dollars I would say the price is in line with the condition of the tractor. An 806 diesel in good condition with good tires will be 11,000 dollars or more depending on the finer points such as seat and muffler for example. It's nice to have receipts from an engine rebuild to look at but sometimes that is not possible.

 

[anoelke]

The

I never had any trouble shifting either of our 706Ds

all right, so just had more time to go through this Tractor and there is a pretty good size puddle of hydraulic fluid underneath what looks like a valve maybe for the steering it’s behind the battery if you look from one side or kind of under the starter if you look from the other seller says it’s just a gasket. Is there an expensive problem hiding here?

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

The

all right, so just had more time to go through this Tractor and there is a pretty good size puddle of hydraulic fluid underneath what looks like a valve maybe for the steering it’s behind the battery if you look from one side or kind of under the starter if you look from the other seller says it’s just a gasket. Is there an expensive problem hiding here?

You might have a leaky line to the priority vale for the steering or one of the seals. Possible to get oil down from the hand pump too. Do you have the loader valves under the tank? Also another place to check.

Mike

 

[anoelke]

You might have a leaky line to the priority vale for the steering or one of the seals. Possible to get oil down from the hand pump too. Do you have the loader valves under the tank? Also another place to check.

Mike

Another thing on the Tractor surprise me, but I’m not familiar with old international. The lift arms go up and down well but if you let go of the control lever, the lever drops down immediately. You can move a limiting knob to stop it not sure if this is how it’s supposed to work or if there’s an issue with this tractors lift arm control lever. I’m used to that limiting knob being what controls how high up you could go like on an Oliver..

 

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Another thing on the Tractor surprise me, but I’m not familiar with old international. The lift arms go up and down well but if you let go of the control lever, the lever drops down immediately. You can move a limiting knob to stop it not sure if this is how it’s supposed to work or if there’s an issue with this tractors lift arm control lever. I’m used to that limiting knob being what controls how high up you could go like on an Oliver..

Just tighten up the friction disc on the offending lever.

 

[anoelke]

Just tighten up the friction disc on the offending lever.

And what about the other lover that says light on one side and heavy on the other? It was stiff, but since I had no idea what it did I didn’t really wanna mess with it.

 

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And what about the other lover that says light on one side and heavy on the other? It was stiff, but since I had no idea what it did I didn’t really wanna mess with it.

That's your draft control lever. It's mainly used when plowing with a semi-mount plow to control your depth. You won't hurt it by messing with it.
Most of the time you just use the position control lever for 3-point work.

 

[anoelke]

With the clutch and transmission brake adjusted properly these tractors shift very well. After adjusting I have customers that can't believe how good they will shift. That goes for the 06,56,826,66,86 series.

Thanks all for the good advice. Got the tractor home last week but it took a few days to get the loader bracket adapted and just started using yesterday. Runs great, but After using all day had a few things turn up.
First, Hydraulic levers that control the remotes work but get stuck. You can feel them kind of snap forward or back feels like throw needs to be adjusted.
Second
It sometimes wouldn’t go into reverse or low.
Pushed in clutch, shift into R or L on Shifter. Let clutch out. Tractor Doesn’t move. I can move up to high or neutral and then come back and it wil work after a couple tries. See some adjustments on linkage behind plate at bottom of console. any advice on how to fix this?
thank you
Aubrey Noelke

 

[Mrfred54]

The hydraulic valves can be adjusted at the rear of the tractor. On the back of the valves under the seat there is small pop out plug. With the plug removed spray you favorite lube in there and you will see a screw driver slot on the end of the valve. Righty, tighty. Lefty, loosey. This adjusts how tight you want your valve to work. Shifting sounds like you need adjusting. Also remove the tin cover at the bottom of the steering column and you will see your adjusting link. At the front off this link where it connects with the vertical shaft there is a roll pin that wears and gets really sloppy. Have to drill the hole larger for a roll pin to fit tight

 

[the tractior vet]

Looking for a tractor to use 3-4 times a week to grind feed and 2 times a year to shred 60 acres. Found an 806 that’s been fixed up that looks pretty sharp. New gauges engines been gone through, inject pump has been rebuilt. Shifts well no leaks.
Anybody out there still using these daily?
Are parts hard to find?
Appreciate any advice on it.
Used to old tractors just not this color..
Thanks
Aubrey

Yep i still run one . It has become the go to tractor for my friends , some times i have to go hunt it down . I think i bought it back in 94 . That was one of the years where i could not keep a tractor around long enough to get one field turned . I was going thru 706's as fast as i could buy haul fix and test . Someone would show up after the shop doors were closed and i was out back tryen to plow . I would let them make a round or two and the check book would come out and the plow got unhooked in the furrow and it was gone . Sold the last tractor i had on a Tuesday and headed out at 3 Am West bound to the sale . I get to the sale and instant panic NOTHING there i could afford , Not even one old 450 gas . Everything there was bigger and newer then would work in my area and would go for more then i really wanted to spend . I was there for two reasons one was tractors and to do some buying for a buddy who went to a sale way over east and what ever trinkets i could gather up to atleast make gas money back . I was out for two days and when i got home i called my buddyy to let him know how many of his greens stamps i spent . He asked if i got any tractor bought and told him everything was out of our price range and way to big . and new . He then told me had he known he would have snagged me a 706 and 806 both diesels at the sale he was at and no body even bid on them and the consignor took them back home and that was a Auctioneer we knew . So Saturday evening i called ED and i bought both over the phone . My buddy had half a semi load to pick up over east and Monday i took the semi and picked up what he had to get at the sale lot then drove a 100 more miles to get both tractors . the 806 was plum ugly then and is still ugly it leaks oil everywhere and i have never fixed it up like the last three 806's that i went all over getting them better then new and end up with someone who just has to have it and offers ya twice what they could go to a sale and buy one . This Rag i have flat up and runs as for repairs two clutches due to pulling the centers out twice , one alt. one water pump couple new seats a new steering wheel a new set of Firestone radials and a valve cover gskt . It does all the mowing of hay around 400 acres a year , grids every batch of feed pulls silage wagons every fall that are way to big for a 806 the reason for clutch centers . Did all the spring tillage the one year when my buddy's 1066 dined on the rear end the 806 pulled the 5x16 710 plow and the 18 foot 470 disc then planted every acre of corn then went did the mowing raking and baling . Pushen well over 11000 hours and neither the head or pan has been off , T/A is still working just fine . the hyd. are getting a bit slow so a new pump will go in here when the weather breaks . I personally 806's since the first came out . Back then the man i worked for bought the vary first one showen to the public back in Sept of 63 a week later my uncle bought the second one . my former boss bought a second one in 65 and in 85 i bought that one they said it was DEAD they put it up for bids and i bid 2450 for it and was high bidder . The only thing wrong with it was the steering cylinder cap was cracked and leaked oil 10 buck for a used cap and a couple bucks for a O/Ring five gallon of Hy tran two new batterys a clutch adjustment and dump valve adjustment and it was fine i got to farm with it for a week and someone just could not live with out it and offered 6500. . To me they are easy to work on for the most part just the engine now that can be touchy . They are not for the novice . When you go playen with the 361 and 407 everything has to be gone thru like building a race motor /

 

[the tractior vet]

No.

The things people say when tryen to UNLOAD something .

 

[MeanGene1]

Gramps was just getting out of the dealership when the 06's came out. His main other business was the lime spreading which did very well, and also got into farming. For a while he had a pair of gas M's and a TD6, sold one of the M's and was set on trading in the other ones on a new 504, as it was being hyped as something special. They put on a big plowing display and everybody showed up, Deere, Ford, Allis all with their shiniest new toys. Big rolling hill that the tractors came up over. Deeres were next to last, then the Binders who had a 504 pulling 4, 706D pulling 5, 806D pulling 6 and the 4100 had 7- it was a massacre. That 504 was way overmatched with 4, struggled pretty good, so he cancelled keeping that and kept the 706D, and our neighbor potato farmer bought the 806D. Both were turned up some of course, and pretty good horses. 18.4-34's on both, clam fenders. That 806D pulled 6-16's for many years with zero problems- really strong and dependable tractor. Gramps got another 706D in '65, good runner but no match for the '63 Demonstrator- couldn't get gramps off that '63, I got the '65

 

[the tractior vet]

Gramps was just getting out of the dealership when the 06's came out. His main other business was the lime spreading which did very well, and also got into farming. For a while he had a pair of gas M's and a TD6, sold one of the M's and was set on trading in the other ones on a new 504, as it was being hyped as something special. They put on a big plowing display and everybody showed up, Deere, Ford, Allis all with their shiniest new toys. Big rolling hill that the tractors came up over. Deeres were next to last, then the Binders who had a 504 pulling 4, 706D pulling 5, 806D pulling 6 and the 4100 had 7- it was a massacre. That 504 was way overmatched with 4, struggled pretty good, so he cancelled keeping that and kept the 706D, and our neighbor potato farmer bought the 806D. Both were turned up some of course, and pretty good horses. 18.4-34's on both, clam fenders. That 806D pulled 6-16's for many years with zero problems- really strong and dependable tractor. Gramps got another 706D in '65, good runner but no match for the '63 Demonstrator- couldn't get gramps off that '63, I got the '65

 

[the tractior vet]

Way back in like 1960 times were trough even as a kid if you wanted something ya needed MONEY .

 

[the tractior vet]

Yea , my old ugly 806 gets the bag run off it . It has become the go to tractor when someone needs it , not just me as at times i have to go looking for it . Is it at Vernon's place or does Eugene have it . If it is not there then go to John Boy's place . It is the last 806's i bought as everyone that prior i had totally redone fixed up better then factory new and some YAWHO JUST HAD TO HAVE IT And dangled the carrot twice tio three times what any normal person could buy one for and i took the money and went shopping again. this one has to be the UGLIEST of all . it leaks oilk everywhere , the paint is toast , it use to be a narrow ft and it has fast hitch . A wide ft has been added . BUT this is the best running 806 i have ever been on that has not had a turbo added . It has pulled the center out of two clutches . it has won the 13500 lb dead weight pull . it has hauled countless big silage wagons pulling loads over 32800 lbs hence the centers pulled out . it has done a full season as main tractor when the rear end went out of the 1066 pulling the 5x16 710 semi mounts and the 18 foot 470 disc . plowing in fourth low one gear lower then the 1066 did all the 400 acres of hay , pulled silage wagons off three farms and filled two bunkers and other then the valve cover being off ONCE SINCE 1964 WITH OVER 11000 HOURS ON THE CLOCK if runs fantastic . The reason i do not make it like new or better is i like it and being UGLY Nobody even asked to buy it . I enjoy running it / Like the time we put it on the silage bagger and the guy who rents the bagger mad fun of it sayen it would NOT have enough power to run a bagger as a 4430 had a hard time , by the forth load he had to back off the tension due to the 806 stuffen the bag so full and hard . we were unloading as fast as we could and the 806 just took it as night fell all you could see was the foot and a half of fire out the stack on the 806 and the black smoke filling the hollow never backing down never having to slow down the feed going in just let her eat holding 540 PTO RPM . when done the bagger guy told me he could not believe that old rag had that much in her to almost split the bag Yea i know 806's every nut bold and screw inside out .

 

[the tractior vet]

Never heard that one before. (Engine smokes because the valves haven't worn in yet)

Welp sometimes when ya tighten up the head it brings out other evils . I would be looking at the blow by out the breather tube . Now as to the hazing out the pipe . i would have to see it myself and not go by hearsay . 361's are fantastic engines but are some of the fusseset . Not for the novice . you either know them or ya don't Fussy on valve adjustments . fussy on rebuilds and if not done right they will toss there cookies after a botched rebuild before fifty hours as one farm in my are found out the hard way not once but four times with four ventilated blocks all because he did not like my cost of rebuild and ended up having me do number five .

 

[MeanGene1]

We used to work with a dairy farmer who had a 3020 gasser on hay and oats, really good guy with a great sense of humor. Those 706Ds would really beat up that 3020- I had to run it one day pulling one of our 16' drag harrows, felt like I was being punished for something. That poor thing really struggled to run his feed grinder, and he was trying to convince himself that he could afford new 4020. He borrowed our "new" 706D and put it on the grinder, didn't even breath hard- then he wouldn't bring it back. We finally snuck over there about 6:30 when he was milking and made off with it. The phone rang about 8, gramps just grinned and wouldn't answer it