8N Key Switch

[Hobo,NC]

(quoted from post at 23:22:33 02/28/23)

(quoted from post at 07:58:52 02/28/23)

(quoted from post at 09:15:52 02/28/23)

What better time to check than before you install it?

before you [i:f93e4aae04]buy[/i:f93e4aae04] it. see below

Take it as my tip of the day.

BTW its printed in the description, key is removable in the on and off position.

well, if and when i ever have to replace my cheap switch, i'll be sure not to get one of those. that 'feature' is a dealbreaker for me. i asked about the behavior of the cheap switch before i ordered them. if the key could come out with the switch on, i wouldn't have bought them. when the key is in my pocket, i know the ignition is off. i like that.

One day you may find the key is in the switch and in the on position and the switch is at fraught.... Its a pattern failure of those garbage switches, I doubt you will like that.

If you read the notes an interchange of the part number list a stitch that works as reported and can be picked up local... You gotta like that.

I did not make the failure of those cheap switches up, they earned their reputation : (.

i didn't say anything about your assessment being fictional. my point was simply that to me, any switch, no matter how well-made or expensive, that allows the key to come out while in the on position is garbage to begin with. that was all.

Cool, but that function can be useful in some applications. The first time I remember using that switch was when I made a Ho-made burglar alarm. YES, when I turned it on I thought it was neat I could take the key with me : )

 

[HFJ]

Cool, but that function can be useful in some applications. The first time I remember using that switch was when I made a Ho-made burglar alarm. YES, when I turned it on I thought it was neat I could take the key with me : )

ah, ty, i wasn't thinking that far off-label, and have been wondering why anyone would want that "feature." so, i'll revise the question i've been wondering.

is there any reason anyone would want a key that comes out of their ignition when it's on?

a locksmith once told me to keep keys hanging off an ignition switch to a minimum. i now use the same single key on its ring for both tractors. but i am guessing that's unrelated to the issues the cheap switches have.

even with my arthritis, about the only thing easier for me than replacing this switch is checking it. if and when the time comes, i'll reconsider my price point

 

[Caryc]

What is a simple test I can do with a volt meter to make sure this switch is wired correct when I turn it to "on".

 

[HFJ]

(quoted from post at 16:24:59 02/28/23)
What is a simple test I can do with a volt meter to make sure this switch is wired correct when I turn it to "on".

set to ohms, the meter should show no continuity between the center terminal and either of the side terminals without the key. i would imagine u should see continuity between the center and whichever way you turn the key. i suppose it's possible that turned one way, u could see continuity from the center terminal to both sides, which would also apply if u do as jmor suggested and just jumper the two side terminals together

edit: this assumes that the center terminal is the one intended to have the hot wire attached.

This post was edited by HFJ on 02/28/2023 at 12:59 pm.

 

[ASEguy]

I believe it is if you do not add any other load devices in the circuit.

 

[Nyquil Junkie]

I had to replace the ignition in one of our old skid steers a while ago. Old one was busted inside, nearly cause a fire from the dead short. The first one I stupidly got from TSC worked, but after a few on off cycles developed loose internal contacts or something... a very slightly loose key.

This caused a week of oddball running and starting issues I chased all over the machine until I noticed I could replicate the running problems by...

wiggling the key. Ugh.

I didn't stop to think long before that that the new ignition switch could be defective. Tire and in a hurry I just took for granted it worked and took off on that wild goose chase.

Get it running and wiggle the key. Every now and then, just for kicks, grab that key and wiggle it while its running.

Big tight toggle switches work in place of keys if you dont have little kids running around.

 

[Hobo,NC]

(quoted from post at 20:19:33 03/05/23) I had to replace the ignition in one of our old skid steers a while ago. Old one was busted inside, nearly cause a fire from the dead short. The first one I stupidly got from TSC worked, but after a few on off cycles developed loose internal contacts or something... a very slightly loose key.

This caused a week of oddball running and starting issues I chased all over the machine until I noticed I could replicate the running problems by...

wiggling the key. Ugh.

I didn't stop to think long before that that the new ignition switch could be defective. Tire and in a hurry I just took for granted it worked and took off on that wild goose chase.

Get it running and wiggle the key. Every now and then, just for kicks, grab that key and wiggle it while its running.

Big tight toggle switches work in place of keys if you dont have little kids running around.

I spec I have used/sold 30 of those switches 25 of'em came back home. : ( I have one tractor with one on it now that I have to wiggle the switch on )(*&($$&&*) I run a voltmeter on it so know when the magic chit happens.

 

[whaNcock]

I ditched the key switch for a marine toggle switch years ago with no regrets! Because of where I live and who's in my house, I don't have to worry about someone starting the tractor without a key, but that should be a consideration.

 

[Tall T]

Tried to start the Jube today and discovered my new battery was deader than a doornail.
I'm showing my age but I think I left the key on last time I used it cause I was reaching over the hood last time I thought I turned it off.

It's a simple on and off switch.
Only in one position is the key removable.
That's the OFF position right? Removal equals OFF; Is that the general rule?

If that's the case then clockwise is ON.
Battery is on charge right now and out of reach of the tractor.