9n won't start when temps below 38F

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My 9n starts perfectly until the air temperature gets to be about 38F. It pops and sputters and dies. over and over. I have gas to the carb and have spark. Keep thinking about bad gas but it has done this for 4 years. Any ideas?
 
6 volt or 12?? Compression?? Low compression, cold, and 6 volts are a bad combination. Cure - convert to 12 volt, rebuild engine, jump with 12 volt battery (read Bruce's tips), or park in heated garage (shed).
 
As HCooke said, tell us if it's 6v or 12v & what the compression is.

No matter what else you do, the battery must be fully charged. A float charger is helpful. If you need to jump it, see tip # 43. No, it doesn’t need to be 12v. Plenty of N’s start just fine on 6v in below 0* temps.



Clean grounds & battery terminals are always important. Don’t forget to loosen the starter from the block (see tip # 36) and polish the block & all starter mating surfaces w/ sandpaper to insure a good electrical ground.



If you can’t remember the last time you replaced the battery cables, it’s time to do it. Just because the terminals are clean doesn’t mean there is no corrosion under the insulation. And, this is another case where size matters (see tip # 41)



A charged battery, clean grounds & new cables aren’t going to mean much if the tractor needs a tune-up. At a minimum, every fall, remove the cap (or distributor if it’s a front mount) check the points for pitting or burning, re-gap them & put a dab of lube on the cam. (BTW…..if you’ve wondered why some folks get years of use out of a set of points…….this is one of the reasons).



Distributor gaskets are important on a sidemount & critical on a frontmount. As is the gasket under the coil. Just like with the battery cables….if you can’t remember when you replaced the gaskets, do it this year.



Push the clutch in when you start the engine (tip # 29)



This tip won’t make it start easier, but it will make it run better: turn the main jet out ½ to 1 full turn for cold weather operating. Cold air is denser so you need a richer mixture.



At least ½ open throttle, key on & gas on 2 full turns; keep your hands off the choke until the engine is turning over! If you think an N floods easy in the summer, just wait until it’s 20*. If you flood it, the plugs are fouled & it will be it next to impossible to start. Replace the plugs. You don't need to toss them; heat the tips for a few seconds w/ a propane torch to burn off the invisible spark-robbing deposits from today's additive filled gasoline........or wash them in lacquer thinner.



The general consensus seems to be that a battery blankets or magnetic oil pan heaters work better than lower radiator hose heaters or dipstick heaters. Freeze plug heaters are difficult to find for N’s because of the limited space in the water jacket. Magnetic oil pan heaters on the intake manifold will help as well. Or even a light bulb.



While water in gas today is unusual because of all the ethanol, it’s not unheard of. A little water goes a long way at 20*; use a fuel stabilizer.



This is one of my favorite quotes regarding cold weather starts:



"kilroy



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my 48 8n is 6v with points in a front mount, and at -30 it fires right up, no block heater, just have to tend the choke for a minute. Have run in the rain and snow and have never had to dry the disributer, just used all the little gaskets and guess it sealed up. I like the points because if they do get wet, dry them, they work again, dont know if the electronics are that way but they cost alot more to replace than points I'm sure"
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I had problems getting my front mount 8N to start in cold weather with the original 6 volts. My wiring was very questionable. I completely rewired it (and made sure all the connection were clean). I have not had any problem with starting since (except when it was -20F). I have since converted to 12 volts, also. When it is really cold I'll use my propane torch to feed propane into the carb. Seems to help.

Good luck,
Danny
 
Its 12v. I haven't checked the compression in a while. I think the flooding is the problem. i will try Bruce's ideas. Thanks for the ideas.
 
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