A Drawbar

[MNJD630]

I am trying to figure out what year my slant dash A is as the serial is unreadable. Right now I know only that slant dashes were made from '39 to '48. Mine has the old style drawbar and the foot pedals for the rock shaft control. Does this narrow it at all? Is there anything else that would narrow it down? Any info greatly appreciated.

 

[greenmech]

43-44 had a cast iron frame and pressure radiator cap. 39 -40 blocks and heads had earlier numbers. Check the parts book. Try using paper on your serial # and shade it in with a pencil. Ron Mn.

 

[730-LP]

look in front of the pulley, next to the casting # should be a casting date.

 

[MNJD630]

In front of the pulley on the crankcase is the following A2644R Beneath that is 26. Is this what I am looking for and if so, what does it mean?

 

[wilamayb]

It means the maincase was casted on the 26th day of an unknown year. Casting dates tell very little about the vintage of the tractor. Check all the castings for dates to find out how little it means. They can be 364 days apart.

You will likley never know an exact year of your tractor, but will be able to fit it into a SN range by its characteristics in order to purchase the correct parts as they become necessary.

 

[MNJD630]

Well, my thought was that something needed to change in a nine year production run, which is why I mentioned the drawbar and the rockshaft control. My dad has a B that is mid '40's that has the square drawbar and the lever instead of pedals for the hydraulic/rockshaft. Not sure if the A's changed at the same time, but I thought it worth looking into. At least I could narrow it into early or late.

 

[johndeereman]

what kind of material is your serial plate made from brass or steel the steel ones were war years

 

[wilamayb]

The guidelines are given above to help you decide your year based on frames, radiators, and casting numbers on the block/head/exhaust manifold. It is 39 or later if it is styled and early 47 or before if it has the triangle shaped DB frame.

 

[Walt in Jaxn Tn.]

522599 was the serial # that ended the bushing on the governor shaft. Look for it under the control arm that sits on top of the governor housing. You can lift the control arm up a little just enough to see the bronze bushing shining or not if it is a later model. Later models did away with the bushing and used steel shaft to cast iron housing. My 46 model long hood "A" dosen't have the governor shaft bushing but does have the late drawbar started at ser # 561903. My "A" is 568664
Also, the long hood "A" I believe could be ordered with power lift (foot pedel operated) or power trol (hand lever on the left usually) or flat back (no lift at all)
I've read here that sometimes you can date a tractor by the serial # tag on the power lift housing, don't know how, but you might ask.

 

[MNJD630]

Well, I know what it isn't. It is not a war years, no cast frame, no pressurized radiator, brass serial tag. So that eliminates '44 and '45. Looking last evening, I think I might be able to pull some of the numbers off the serial, but it is going to take a little work and better light than I had at the time.
I guess it is not overly important to know the year, just would be nice.

 

[Will P]

45 had angle iron frame and non pressure cooling. Late 43 and 44 are the cast frame, pressure cooling. There is no styled brass tag A's or B's. Either steel or aluminum tags. Can you send me pictures of the tractor???

Thanks

 

[MNJD630]

My mistake on the years, didn't look back on the thread.
Mine has the heavy angle frame. My dad has estimated it as a '45, but really that is just a guess.
I'll see what I can do for a picture.

 

[MNJD630]

Here is the picture.

 

[Will P]

Well, it is a good picture. The rear center is for an A or G. B's only had 4 clamp. So I am going to call it original. NOW!!!! That center does NOT have replicable hubs, WHICH went out out of production 500 into the 1945 year. So, it is either the first 500 of the 1945, or a 41-mid 42 if 6 speed. Late 42's had steel tags. Don't know when, but there is late 42's with steel tags. If it is a 4 speed, it is 39 to 40 Any closer is going to be harder to pinpoint.

Will

 

[MNJD630]

It is a six speed.
My next question is: What is a replicable hub?
I am guessing it has an aluminum tag, probably why it wore out so bad. I have not really looked very close at it, couldn't say for sure.

 

[Will P]

The center and the splined portion are separable. See how they are bolted together.


Will
center

 

[Will P]

What is the serial number on your Powerlift valve?

 

[MNJD630]

Where exactly would it be?

 

[MNJD630]

Okay, there is what looks like a serial tag under the part number. It is hard to make out , but it looks like 110. Sound right or am I in the wrong ball park?

 

[MNJD630]

Oh, thanks. I never realized there was a difference with the Power Lift vs. Power Trol. I thought they were the same, just different controls. Learn something new everyday! Thanks again!

 

[Will P]

The powerlift body, the thing with the foot peddles has a serial tag on it. Find it and post the serial number.

 

[MNJD630]

Found it last night, double checked it today. It looks to be 110.

 

[Will P]

It should read PL***** on it. It is an aluminum tag that is put on with rivets just like the tractor serial tag.

 

[MNJD630]

I can see where it was, but it appears to be gone. The rivet heads are still there, but all I can make out is 110. Looks like it was cast in as it is raised. Can't be the tag, I assume that would be stamped.

 

[Will P]

Yep, was a stamped tag. Oh well. Was hoping to have the serial number, because I have a early 43A with powerlift. Your serial number on that would tell me if your tractor was before my 43 or after. All I can tell you is it is a 41-mid 42 or the first 500 of 45 Just because of the number made, I would say it is a 41.

Will

 

[MNJD630]

Well, win some, lose some, I guess. As you can see from the picture, the old girl has suffered some neglect. Saved it from a scrap yard back in September. I am hoping to have it up and running next summer.
Anyway, thanks for the help. You have narrowed it down considerably and I appreciate it.

 

[spacechem]

It's also possible that, some time in the past 60-odd years, the Power Lift/Power Trol has been retrofitted or replaced, so use that only as support for other clues, not as a basis for identification.

 

[Will P]

Enjoy it. The early A's have some class.


Will

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