best bang for $

[Anonymous-0]

What is the best light (3500-4000) tractor to build? Which can you get the best HP for the least money? I know HP cost money but what is the best bang for the buck?

 

[Anonymous-0]

an AC

 

[VicS]

Allis

 

[Anonymous-0]

Oliver 77

 

[Kip-Utah]

Styled A-C WC, Unstyled A-C WC, WD/WD45. In that order. A decent WC will be competitive at everything between 3,200lb.-4,500lb.

 

[north puller]

I agree. It's got to be an allis wc, wd or an oliver 77 for 3500. A massey 44 is a good consideration for 4500. Look to a farmall M or oliver 88 for 5500.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Farmall H And have fun watching the Allis boys cry.

 

[bobidan]

allis wc or wd

 

[wi50]

Allis is cheap, just beat the scrap man. A lot of things in an Allis engine can be used from the automotive supply of parts, common valves, common size pistons depending on what you intend to do. A farmall is just a bit more apt to end up with custom parts, or would likely cost a bit more. But the farmall probably has a little advantage with gear selection.

 

[LWD]

I had good luck with my AC WC,there are some tricks you can use on them,,I puled 6500 in second gear,,that speeking for the tricks,,do your home work.

 

[north puller]

It is going to be tough for an H to match an allis for cubes. Going to be a lot less "bang" and a lot more "bucks"

 

[Ustylish]

Yeah, cry with tears of laughter at how broke the guy is with the H after building a motor for it...

 

[tn ollie]

88 oliver 3500lbs

 

[north puller]

That's going to be a lot more bucks than an allis too. The question wasn't what is the best tractor to pull 3500 on an unlimited budget, but what is the best bang for the buck. A budget anything is going to have trouble with a big dollar anything. But for a small budget, most will agree that an allis is the best 3500 option. It takes very little to get it there weight wise, and starts with a decent sized engine that can be tuned up not bad with stock allis parts.

 

[Anonymous-0]

77 oliver.. you can bolt in a 100hp engine, they balance very well, already have 9 bolt hubs on the rear, differnet gear options are available, very nice appearance, and you don't have to be an octapus to drive it...LOL.

 

[Superih]

(quoted from post at 04:22:10 03/29/11) Yeah, cry with tears of laughter at how broke the guy is with the H after building a motor for it...

Ha ha, just remember cubic inches does not equal horsepower, the farmall is a more efficient engine!

 

[Anonymous-0]

I'm working on that at the moment. Yes it is a very well
thought out powerplant. But still they cost alot more to go
bigger, which is what I was referring to. All the power in the
world evens out up till about 5mph.....

 

[Anonymous-0]

Cmon cody! U. Know that the tractor was designed for a guy with a long arm and leg and a short arm and leg. And he ran the throttle with his, hired help, dick . Not and octopus. That's just crazy......

 

[VicS]

Youl Allis built this really cute efficient tractor and then someone said, but where does the driver ride? So they found this handicapped Guy. Believe it or not I think the WD45 is the best chore tractor ever made. I can slide off and on easier than any thing else.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Most places 77 or 88 not allowed in 3500

 

[BushogPapa]

Maybe it took me about 5 years to get molded
to the shape of the AC requirements...!!
After that, my fore-arms got Big and I developed good balanced reactions to driving with only the brakes touching the ground...!!
Got my thrills everyday and never knew nobody else knew an AC tractor would lean into a Load like that...!!!

Ron..

 

[Anonymous-0]

may shock some but I am with Cody starting out with a 100 horses is a good 40 hp ahead of the rest starting out .

 

[Mike Bock]

i dont see how on a good track a wc rear end would hold up in the 6500 pound class i broke mine twice in the 4000 pound class with 14.9x38s on it and all i have is 226 cubic inches

 

[Anonymous-0]

An octapus named Dick?? LMAO!!

 

[CoopertownBob]

(quoted from post at 07:22:10 03/29/11) Yeah, cry with tears of laughter at how broke the guy is with the H after building ... it ...

Hey! I resemble that remark!

Before:

After One Year and Mucho-$$$: (Yes, that is a 3rd place trophy on the hood, from its very first hook to the sled ever, and in 3500 Farm Stock no less!)

And Still MORE $$$$ Later:

And even though I am a Farmall man all the way (my blood is even actually RED), I will still say that the easiest to build light puller starts from an A-C WD-45. You are starting with well over 200 cubic inches already, (225 I think), and that is before you even spend money improving it. If your rules allow you to swap to 38 inch drive tires, you'll be practically unbeatable in first gear only pulls, due to being able to pull at around 5 MPH with the big tire.

 

[Mopower]

It sort of depends on the class you are pulling. It's hard to beat an Allis WC for any light class. For Division 2 alow speed competition, a 226 Allis WC, HD220 Moline 335, 175 Farmall H, and punched out Oliver 77 are fairly inexpensive. The WC and WD is by far the cheapest tractor to buy and modify unless you are talking tranny. Molines bolt in a HD220 that can make 75 ponies with little work, but they are harder to find. Farmall H are dirt cheap, but 350 engines are not. As for the Ollies? I'm not sure. They are pretty light and make good power out of the box.

 

[Mopower]

Then again, a Moline R with a 206 ZA engine can make a great light weight torquey 3000-3500# tractor. The old 206 is capable of 50+ horsepower and easy to tinker with.

 

[VicS]

Allis is definitely the cheapest to run, but I have had a lot more Fun pulling my 435 JD. No body pays it any attention till after it pulls. Probably just costs ten times as much as a good WC, but is it worth it? It is a John Deere. LOL Vic

 

[Mopower]

Love that sound! I grew up around a 6-71 and 8V-71 Detroit. Could be my favorite Deere.

 

[nl00sb]

get a allis wc put a wd45 crank in it and start with that will give u something decent to start with and lots of room to go bigger